No, I already had that set  to speaker instead of auto.  But, what a good try.

The main reason that I wanted to get away from the sensor was because it wasn't 
working right.  A reboot of the phone fixed that.  Or, at least, some thing 
fixed it.  I would still like to be able to lock the phone in to speaker mode 
but since the sensor is now stable, I could live with it if I needed to.  For 
now, I am guessing that this might be a bug in IOS 13.

Richard, I appreciate all of your time in digging around for different 
suggestions.

Cheers,

James B  

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The proximity sensor on the new SE

James, perhaps you are looking for Call Audio routing?
Settings, Accessibility, Touch, Call Audio Routing.Call audio routing 
determines where audio will be heard during a phone call or FaceTime audio.
It defaults to automatic.
Maybe setting it to speaker will do what you want if that is to always have it 
on speaker.


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