I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or
gunshots.
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Caitlyn
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.
Caitlyn
> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney <n4o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> O' just one more! I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all
> the time. They have been around for almost 15 years. They work for some
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm,
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear
>> thunder.
>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm,
>> reassuring tone.
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>>
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally,
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its
>> owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or
>> windowless bathroom
>>
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog
>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added
>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help,
>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or
>> Anxiety Wrap. The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make
>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the
>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid
>> injuring your dog.
>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points
>> associated with stress relief.
>> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog
>> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The
>> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always
>> supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety.
>> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and
>> help him/her stay calm if you need to leave the house. Consult the product
>> directions for safety information.
>>
>> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing
>> machine) can help drown out the thunder.
>> Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting.
>> • Covering the dog's ears can also help.
>>
>> Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible, keep your dog away from
>> windows, or put up heavy curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning can be an
>> additional source of anxiety. Block the dog's access to exits, since some
>> scared dogs may try to run away or harm visitors.
>>
>> Play games.
>> Encourage your dog to participate in indoor activities. You could
>> play fetch or put on music and dance together. Try to find an activity that
>> will turn your dog's attention away from the storm.
>>
>> Consider home remedies. These include herbal and homeopathic remedies to
>> treat anxiety. Always use remedies specifically intended for dogs. Some
>> essential oils that work for humans may cause discomfort or injury in
>> animals. Less concentrated doses are usually required as well.
>> • Be sure to consult your veterinarian before using, the oils are
>> very concentrated and can be harmful to your skin as well as your dog's.
>> They can also damage furniture.
>> • Lavender is one popular option that seems to help dogs, when used in the
>> correct dose.
>> • Another option is petting your dog with a dryer sheet- it reduces static.
>>
>> Talk to your vet about medication. If these methods are ineffective, ask
>> your vet about anti-anxiety medications.
>> Your dog can take some medications such as amitriptyline for the duration of
>> the storm season. There are also quick-acting medications such as
>> acepromazine ("Ace") or diazepam that can be taken for individual storms.
>>
>> • To be effective, quick-acting medications must be administered before your
>> dog exhibits any behavioral changes.
>> • Never give a dog medication without consulting a veterinarian first.
>>
>> Part 2
>> Preventing Your Dog's Fear
>> Desensitize your dog.
>> To teach your dog that storms are nothing to fear, play a recording
>> of a thunderstorm on very low volume for several hours, once a week.
>> Each week, if the dog shows no signs of agitation, turn up the volume
>> slightly. It can take a long time for your dog to adapt, but eventually your
>> dog may learn not to fear thunder.
>> • If this agitates your dog too much, start with 5–10 minute daily sessions
>> instead.
>>
>> Expert Trick: While you play thunder sounds for your dog, give them a
>> bone to chew on or toy to play with. Furthermore, you can give your
>> dog treats and give commands to keep their focus on you and make the
>> experience a happy occasion. This will help make thunderstorms seem like a
>> normal experience and keep them from getting scared during a real one.
>>
>> Encourage calm behavior.
>> Give your dog a treat or a toy when it shows calm behavior during a storm,
>> or when it obeys a command despite its fear. Train it to respond to a
>> "relax,"
>> "calm," or "settle" command.
>> • Training your dog with an indoor leash is also highly effective.
>> For example, treat your house like an indoor obstacle course and lead your
>> dog around asking him/her to perform certain commands. If at any time this
>> appears to be causing more stress, stop, and work on calming your dog.
>>
>> Anticipate your dog's fear. To curb stress and anxiety, engage with
>> your dog before the storm hits. Prepare indoor activities, and make sure
>> your dog's safe place is set up.
>>
>> • Do not punish a dog exhibiting fear or anxiety during a storm. This is not
>> bad behavior – your dog has a genuine phobia.
>> • Be patient and kind. It may take time for your dog to improve.
>> • If you know a thunderstorm is coming, let your dog outside to go to
>> the bathroom. Once the storm starts the dog is unlikely to go outside to
>> relieve itself.
>>
>>
>> From: https://www.wikihow.com/Calm-a-Dog-During-Thunderstorms
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
>> Of Shirley Baker
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 6:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>>
>> No, it's not. I happen to know some people who have used them on their dogs
>> and they say they help.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Baker
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>>>
>>> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a
>>> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm
>>> wrong. I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for
>>> dogs.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when
>>>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jennie Facer
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>>>>
>>>> Simon,
>>>>
>>>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a
>>>> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and
>>>> it is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
>>>>
>>>> Jenn
>>>>
>>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck, I
>>>>> don't see the point?
>>>>>
>>>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue And if you're worried about
>>>>> it striking you when you're out, Then if it's already struck, it
>>>>> will be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or your phone
>>>>> will be working.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Jennie Facer
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Lightning alert
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me
>>>>> to when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenn
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>>>>
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