Debby, Thanks for your review of this one. I will give it a try.
The Bird Song ID app I have tried also lowers the volume as soon as you tap on the tab for recording bird songs, so yes, it would seem it may have something to do with the microphone. Headphones do work fine with this. Pam ________________________________________ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Debby [dm-h...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 2:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App Hi, In case anyone is interested, I did buy the ChirpOmAtic app. It is generally accessible with a couple of caveats. I did not try recording any birds because it is a hot muggy day around here. Here are a couple of issues. Here is the biggest one. When you start the app Voiceover does not come out of the speaker. It is as though you are on a phone call. If you press the home button and come out of the app and go back in then voiceover comes out of the speaker. (I did not try with headphones to see what would happen.) I am thinking that this happens because the app wants to use the microphone, and so it puts any sound on the phone to the ear piece. This is fixable, but strange! Most of the controls are fine, but some of them are labeled with words with no spaces. For instance on the first page there is a control that is labeled “taptorecord.” The app does have a reference section where you can hear various birds. This section has a letter index and a search that is accessible and works. On the page where you hear the birds songs/calls there is a description of the sound just as there is in the “Chirp! Bird Song & calls USA” app. However, if you want to read the description of the song/call, you have to hunt a bit toward the bottom right of the screen. Take care! Debby From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App Hi, It looks as though the ChirpOmAtic and the one I suggested “Chirp USA” are from the same developer. By the way, I just looked in the app store, and the one I recommended is listed as “chirp! Bird songs & calls USA.” I looked up what I paid, and it was $3.95 in December, 2016. Because it is on my phone, I can’t tell if the price has changed. I think I am going to get the “ChirpOMAtic” and try it out. Although birds aren’t really singing as much this time of year in my suburban environment. It will be interesting to see how it handles multiple birds. Take care! Debby Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:18 AM To: viPhone 📩 Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App I wonder about these apps when you have multiple birds singing at the same time. I’m not sure any of them could be all that accurate. It’s too bad they don’t have a trial period. Like you Bill, I would not buy an app without knowing it worked with VoiceOver at the very least. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 7:18 AM To: viPhone 📩 <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App ************ - Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 12.4.8) via Google Mail I am likewise interested in an app that can identify birds by their calls with a reasonable degree of accuracy. I live in northern Wisconsin and as I sit outside listening to the cacauphony of bird calls surrounding me I’d like to know which species are so garciously treating me to Nature’s symphony. I went to the web site listed by Richard and found an app named ChirpOMatic but wonder if it is accessible. It costs $3.95 and I am sufficiently cheap that I do not want to throw away that amount. Can anybody tell me if ChirpOMatic is accessible to a totally blind person? ************ - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin - “The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.” - Contributor Unknown P.S. Wow, what an appropriate signature tag the system randomly chose for this message. I swear, I had nothing to do with this signature other than adding to my library; I have the Mac randomly selecting signature tags! On Jul 18, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: If you are wanting an app that will tell you what the bird is from hearing the song, here is a review that you may find helpful. https://lifehacker.com/shazam-for-birds-three-apps-that-recognize-bird-calls-1797955537<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifehacker.com%2Fshazam-for-birds-three-apps-that-recognize-bird-calls-1797955537&data=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C92543840c8294daa424608d82c148533%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C637307813939897703&sdata=CfwBCxLzap2BrgstRh1zCnbS64hImB5roS937HTE3XQ%3D&reserved=0> If you want one to look up birds and hear what their song is like plus other information, check out the free Audubon app. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 1:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App Hi Pam, First thanks to James for taking the plunge in answering your email. Those 26 instances of your email scared me a bit. Anyway, the bird song identification app I use is "Chirp USA." It has a ton of birds and includes bird songs as well as calls. Also, there are good descriptions of the songs/call and links to other information about the bird for the Cornell ornithology site and Wikipedia. Take care! Debby -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James English Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 3:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App Hi, I don't know an app but I think your email might be broken as you sent this 26 times. - James On 7/18/20, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand....@disney.com<mailto:pamela.a.ekstrand....@disney.com>> wrote: Hi All, Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by their song? I have tried some that are not very accessible. The one I did find mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it will identify the same song as belonging to different birds at different times. Thanks for any suggestions. Pam -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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