Oh one hand, I would love being able to install any app I want, wether it's
on the App Store or not. That's one of Epic's things. On the other, yeah
all the accessibility work Apple does, making the Siri voices, licensing
the Vocalizer ones, offering free updates and all, yeah that does cost
money.
Devin Prater
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On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 9:51 PM <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Did I miss something? In the article that was posted, it says:
>
> While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will
> still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where
> Facebook Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook
> added for Android stating that it doesn’t charge fees for purchases isn’t
> showing up either.
>
> Isn't this saying Google is waiving it's 30% if Facebook Pay is used? How
> does this equate with the media not saying anything about Google? Isn't
> this counter to the statement about how greedy Google is?
>
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> Christopher (AKA CJ)
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
> > Of Mary Otten
> > Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 9:43 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Apple is greedy, news!
> >
> > Epic try to get a sweet deal from Apple. Apple said no. Epic got mad.
> What
> > nobody is talking about is it epic is also going after Google, which
> charges the
> > same 30% cut that Apple does, although most of the tech press wants to
> > concentrate only on Apple. I wonder why. Might it be that it’s because
> Google
> > will sell your grandma if you’ll let them? Apple isn’t perfect. But they
> don’t make
> > their money off of selling you.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > This sounds like the epic games situation also.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
> > Of janet gross
> > > Sent: Monday, 7 September 2020 1:38 pm
> > > To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > > Subject: Apple is greedy, news!
> > >
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > > I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested.
> > >
> > > August 28, 2020
> > > Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee
> Apple
> > reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid
> online events.
> > > 1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees Just when we thought
> we'd
> > run out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech giant reportedly blocked
> Facebook's
> > message to users who organize paid online events. The message isn't
> showing
> > up on Android, either, but Apple seems to bear the brunt of the
> coverage, of
> > course.
> > > Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is
> getting a
> > cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network told
> Reuters. Earlier
> > this month, Facebook launched a new feature that gives businesses and
> creators
> > a way to charge for the online events they host on the platform. Since
> the
> > company rolled it out to help small businesses during the pandemic, it
> vowed not
> > to collect fees from paid events "for at least the next year."
> > >
> > > Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store
> tax or to
> > at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments
> directly. By
> > doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, which will
> then get 100
> > percent of the revenue they generate. Apple refused on both counts,
> prompting
> > the social network to join other developers like Epic Games in putting
> Apple on
> > blast for its App Store policies.
> > >
> > > In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will
> go to the
> > hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly
> stating
> > that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple blocked
> it from
> > showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule that prohibits
> developers
> > from showing "irrelevant" information. The company told Reuters in a
> > statement:
> > >
> > > "Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people
> understand
> > where money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately
> > Apple rejected our transparency notice around their 30% tax but we are
> still
> > working to make that information available inside the app experience."
> > >
> > > While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts
> will still
> > get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook
> Pay is
> > available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for
> Android
> > stating that it doesn't charge fees for purchases isn't showing up
> either.
> > >
> > > https://www.engadget.com/facebook-says-apple-blocked-30-percent-app-
> > store-fee-notice-100501984.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Peace Be With You.
> > >
> > >
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