Hi Alan, I find some widgets useful, for example, Netatmo has a widget which if I go to my today screen gives me a quick overview of all my modules, also my bank allows me to add whichever accounts I want so that I can see their balance on a widget on the Today Screen. I agree that adding a widget to the home screen makes little sense for a blind user. I tried it just to check it out so I added the battery widget and you are correct, it took up a 2 x 2 grid, I put it at the very top left of my screen and usually my top two rows of apps look like this:
App Store, Calculator, Camera, Files Home, Health, Photos, Settings After I put the battery widget there at the top where the App Store widget was, I then had only App Store and Calculator in the top row to the right of the widget and I think in the second row to the right of the widget I had the first ttwo apps of the second row, Hom e and Health. The third row now contained the third and fourth app from the first and second row, so it had Camera, Files, Photos and Settings. My last row of 4 apps on home screen one was entirely pushed over to home screen 2. After I deleted the battery widget it still was not the way as it was before, because now I had App Store, Calculator, Home and Health in the first row and in the end I had to move at least 4 or 5 apps to where I had them before in order to restore the previous look. I could see how visually people will really like these widgets and stacks of widgets, but I doubt it will be something which catches on with most Voiceover users. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 1:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages? Hi Sieghard, I haven't gone to a share sheet since upgrading and I no longer use the native Mail app so I can't address your issues with swiping through their various controls. I will say that I'm not a big fan of the Today screen in iOS 14 with its widgets. To me, widgets seem to be more of a visual feature especially when they are stacked since it seems I'm swiping and swiping to get through one in order to examine others on the screen. And I have no intention of moving any widgets to any of my home screens. I believe they take up at a minimum a two by two grid of home screen icons and I'm not willing to give up that screen real estate. I did note that Thomas Donville of AppleVis mentioned in his podcast on widgets that you should add containers to your rotor because they make navigating amongst widgets easier. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages? Have others found that in iOS 14 the Today screen and also some other screens like the Share sheet which comes up if you for example Share a news article are very difficult and sometimes impossible to navigate? It seems Voiceover gets stuck on some item and no matter what you do that is where it stays, swiping left or right ant doesn't do anything, you can sometimes touch the screen somewhere else to get out of that, but it's quite annoying. The same happens if, for example, I swipe left from the first email into the search field at the top of Mail or Messages, then I can't swipe right to get out of it any more. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages? An even easier way to remove a widget from the screen of widgets is to just bring up the context menu with a triple tap on the widget and then double tap on remove widget. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> <chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 12:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages? I tend to just do the same thing on the widgets screen as I do on any other home page. In particular, I use the actions and flick down until I hear edit. After double tapping, I find the widget I want to remove and then flick down to delete. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages? I just figured out how to remkve ones you have added. After the last widget, activate the edit button. Then, at the bottom of all that, activate the customize button. Then, touch the asp you want to move or remove, and flick up or down with one finger. You will have remove, move up or move down depending on its position. Talk about making something more complicated. I'm not suoe I would ever want widgets on my main screen as they are wider and taller than standard app cons and will move apps you have onto the following screens. My wife described them as about 1.25 inches tall, and most of the width of the screen. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com<mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yes I tried removing several widgets from Page0, but they might have changed how it’s done? I’d like to take out the Stock widget from there especially, but don’t get how with iOS14. Any ideas? About my original question of moving widgets from Page0 to our Home screen, maybe not all widgets can be moved. If the widget doesn’t appear within Add Widget while editing the screen, that’s what I assumed too. Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel El 19 sep 2020, a la(s) 12:07 a.m., chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> escribió: I'm not sure, but I played around with this a bit this afternoon, and from what I can tell not every widget can be placed on a home page. I ended up just treating these as two separate tasks. What I mean is I went into edit mode on my home page and then I used the button at the top to select the widgets I wanted on my first home page. Once I got the widgets I wanted, I then went to the page before the first home page and removed the widgets I no longer needed on that page. The widgets I ended up selecting were of the small variety, and it looks like they take up a two by two grid on the home page. I ended up just settling on three widgets, so I still had space for my most frequently used apps. I'm thinking that this plus the use of the apps library will make for a pretty efficient arrangement. Note that the stacked widgets are interesting. They're like six widgets in one. You can edit them to delete widgets you don't want on the stack and rearrange the ones that are left. You can then use the context menu to cycle through the widgets on the stack. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 8:59 PM To: iPhone List <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages? Hope you guys can make sense of what I?m trying to do: On what I’ll call Page 0 (what used to be Page1 before iOS14), I’ve several widgets (TuneIn Radio, Google News), that I want to somehow drag from Page0 to Page 2, but these don’t move! I try flicking up or down, but no actions rotor. Can’t these widgets not be moved? Because hwen I go to Add Widgets on Page2, from within the editing area in which one can move icons around, the widgets that I?m wanting to move from Page0 to Page2, don’t appear within the Widgets list! What’s going on then? Thanks for info. Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. 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