No,you do not need to be a member. If you create a login account, I think it just helps save your favorites. You can use it without that.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Rena Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 8:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Question about Lazarillo Hello, I just installed Lazarillo in my iPhone 6s, and I need some help, please. When I opened the app, I found welcome to Rever. Rever asked me if I am a member, to log in or sign up. What is Rever? Do I have to be a member to use Lazarillo? Thanks, Rena From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone? Hi, Here you go, this is the direct link to the app store. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lazarillo-accessible-gps/id1139331874<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Flazarillo-accessible-gps%2Fid1139331874&data=02%7C01%7C%7C66940d6e3dc8409e450b08d863c5afe6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637369047990461614&sdata=QPaUU%2B76c11TC84AgNmzSTCC5PdZIIrSB%2BR1okrXYDQ%3D&reserved=0> Enjoy, Richard Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 7:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone? Hello, After reading all the messages about gps, I decided to try Lazarillo. I never used a gps before. Would you please tell me where can I find it? Is it from Microsoft as the Seeing AI? Thanks, Rena From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 2:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone? Soundscape is really best used with bone conduction headphones since it speaks the streets and points of interest out of the side the street or building is on. For example, where I live, there are lots of places where streets do not go through the intersection directly, but might be a half a block apart where the cross street continues. So, if you are walking down the street you might hear 31st ave out of the leftear. Walk a bit further and you might hear 31st ave out of the right ear. That information is confusing if you are not wearing headphones and you don’t want to be earing headphones unless they are bone conduction so your ears are open to hearing the traffic, people etc. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 4:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone? Microsoft Soundscape. It is free. Interesting program. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of terrie...@twc.com<mailto:terrie...@twc.com> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 7:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone? GoodMaps Explorer does do outdoors. I just installed it and looked at POIs from inside my bedroom. It seemed accurate about what I know is around me. I like its tabs at the bottom of the screen; they make sense to me. It is a free download. Not sure if its maps are on line or are part of the download, though the download was fast so I conjecture that maps are online and not downloaded. Will share more after I have used it outside. A caviat about indoor maps for this application: someone has to map a space by walking around it with a backpack of equipment. I saw two places that had indoor maps within five miles of me: American Printing House for the Blind and the McDowell Rehabilitation Center, the state rehab facility for persons with visual impairments. Although the maps do not rely on installation of beacons or other hardware that must be maintained and powered , they do require someone with requisite equipment to walk around the space on all floors and then there are three more steps in making the maps. It is a good idea, but indoor mapping may be limited by how many facilities want to pay to be mapped and how many backpacks of equipment are floating around the country to be used to get the first level of map data. On the plus side, this company is offering other applications of this technology, e.g., first responders. I would think such data could also be useful in coal mines when miners need to get out fast and can’t see because of smoke from a fire. Many facilities might be inclined to pay for initial map making for use in emergencies. This data would also make indoor maps for GoodMaps Explore. Best, Terrie Terlau From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 10:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone? Richard, have u used good maps explore outdoors? If u have, how does it compare to nearby explorer? I thought it was indoor only. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone? Christine,In my opinion, Apple Maps is harder to use with VoiceOver, though it can somehow be set to give more street information.Good Maps Explore or Nearby Explorer online, are the best two free apps that will combine turn-by-turn directions with providing the street information Be aware that Points of Interest are only as accurate as the digital map data, and depending on the source, it can be several years out off date. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert On Sep 25, 2020, at 4:54 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Thanks for this. Kristeen On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Yes. If you just want turn-by-turn directions either walking or driving, Google Maps is very good. If you want something that will tell you about the streets you are crossing, and points of interest nearby, Lazarillo is very good and free. It can also give you walking turn-by-turn directions within the app, or can launch Google Maps and it will still give you information about the streets. I find the Points of Interest a little too distracting, so I turn off the explore mode which is on by default when you launch Lazarillo. It is a button at the top of the screen so easy to get to and turn off. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone? Hello, Is there any gps app free and easy to use? Thanks, Rena -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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