I use a braille display and this is disabled when voiceover is turned off. So, in effect, you can participate in the meeting without interuption, hearing what others have to say and contribute yourself. What one is unable to do is to read whatever notes are being shared with others through the chat function and contribute through the chat function oneself. So it's disabling for the visually impaired person within such a meeting unless others who are aware of this decide not to allow the chat function to be used in a meeting. There's no reason, in my opinion, why others shouldn't agree to this. It is however much more difficult to reach such an agreement when joining meetings where the host doesn't know you or aware of the disabling factors within Zoom for visually impaired people with voiceover turned on. I guess we have to live with this and continue to educate others so that we aren't disabled by such processes through the greater understanding of others when they're made aware of this. I have to admit I fell shy of getting involved in such meetings early on but I knew that this wouldn't be fixed unless I made the poor access issues known to others and to search for a solution. The vast majority of meetings I attend now are ones where I can enter with some confidence that I'm going to be able to participate in.
Dave Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Oct 2020, at 22:47, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > I did not know that VoiceOver would be heard, since on a regular phone call, > it cannot. Fortunately, it hasn't happened, so I did not realize that was an > issue. > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Dave Sheridan' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 12:50 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: when on a zoom call, can voiceover users use the chat within the > zoom app? > > I understood the question related to the chat function within Zoom and not > whether one could chat with others. The chat function for clarity is where > one can write notes to others within the meeting. When voiceover is turned > on, because this is read out it interferes with listening to the speaker or > perhaps I should say, it would interfere whilst chatting with others within > such meetings whether these be bible studies or any other meeting of people. > As I said previously, I've constantly heard when in large meetings anyone > entering or leaving the meeting room which again gets in the way of hearing > who is speaking. One can turn voiceover off but then this doesn't allow > access to any of the functions others have access to when in the meeting. I > hope that is clear to understand. > > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 22 Oct 2020, at 17:12, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: >> >> All I can say is that I use Zoom for my Bible study, and we chat. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 'Dave Sheridan' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 11:31 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: when on a zoom call, can voiceover users use the chat within >> the zoom app? >> >> I agree as one who is totally blind that this is impossible. If the chat >> function is being used whilst voiceover is on hearing who is entering the >> room or leaving it, hearing notes being passed between people within the >> room all get in the way of me hearing the speaker and I've left meetings >> because of this. So, in small meetings I've managed to get others to abandon >> the use of the chat function because of the accessibility issue for me and >> potentially others. I'd also be fascinated to learn how others are able to >> do this. I can only presume those who can have very good hearing and can >> distinguish between what's being said in the background as someone else is >> speaking. >> >> Dave >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On 22 Oct 2020, at 01:25, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone >>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> hi, >>> I am wondering if voiceover users can interact with the chat function when >>> participating on a zoom call? >>> I am wondering because I have not yet been able to find a way to mute the >>> voice is within the zoom call. 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