Yeah it would be an interesting system. I’m concerned that as a kiwi the price for such a device is going to be way out of the average persons price range, Yet with luck apple will make such a device fully accessible to us with visual disabilities to the point that we could somewhat get away without using caines
Oh what a dream I have. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Wednesday, 4 November 2020 3:56 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are I think they're getting all their AI and features ready for Apple Glass. After all, it'd be really cool to get real-time "image recognition" from apple Glass, maybe paired with the iPhone still, but it'd still be amazing! Devin Prater sent from Gmail. On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 12:14 AM Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: I'm glad I live in New Zealand! -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 4:00 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are This feature doesn't have to just be used while you're walking around. It can be used when you're sitting in a restaurant or standing in a line. Plus, there's just something to be said for getting a new feature like this out into the wild before every scenario has been addressed. Let those who can use it start using it while others figure out how to take advantage of a new innovative feature. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Simon A Fogarty > Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 4:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > people are > > Wayne, > > I agree that it's an interesting feature, But do wonder about how best > it will be used by people and I mean all users not just the sight impaired. > > The holding the phone in front of me would be my concern or first > concern, However if you could pair this feature with a device such as > or for example the google glasses or if apple had a device of similar > type, Then I might be more interested in it. > > So a headset like was mentioned with Data from star trek, Pairing > with the iPhone feature for distance, I think would more interest me. > > Just a thought. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Wayne Merritt > Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 4:55 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > people are > > To respond to the original post, I think it's an interesting concept > being able to tell where and how far away people are with your phone. > To those concerned about one walking around with their phones out, I > have done this anyway when using the Aira app. One of my colleagues is > very excited about this general ability with the iPhone 12 Pro for the > accessibility benefits. I think it is interesting, however I also > think it is interesting the new iPhone is getting a feature that many > people are not going to use because they're at home due to the virus. > It seems like the iPhone 12 in general has some test features in it > which are not widely available, such as 5G and this new people > detection. I'm going to wait for them to more fully develop in next > year's phone. I would be interested to hear any podcasts from any > brave soul who has purchase the iPhone 12 Pro and is willing to demonstrate > the new people detection feature. > > Wayne Merritt > > On 10/31/20, h.begum99 via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: > > That would be great, wouldn’t it? I want his visor as well!!! > > > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of > > Sieghard Weitzel > > Sent: 31 October 2020 05:32 > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > > people are > > > > > > > > Forget it, I want at least Geordi La Forge's visor if not his ocular > > prosthetics, a silly iPhone 12 Pro won't cut it. > > > > And for those who are not Star Trek fans, Geordi is one of the main > > characters in Start Trek The Next Generation, he was blind from > > birth, but became Chief Engineer on the Enterprise under Captain Jean-Luc > > Picard. > > > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > On > > Behalf Of karuna Chopra > > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:22 PM > > To: ViPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > > > Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > > people are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its > > practical use for us? > > > > > > > > The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each > > dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. > > > > First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If > > someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person > > is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move > > further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the > > person is in the > camera’s view. > > > > Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. > > For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one > > tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re > > inside that > range. > > After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if > > all they care about is staying two paces away. > > > > The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both > > visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster > > as a person gets closer. > > > > Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help > > discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the > > detected person on the screen. 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