No I didn't move the app but, I had one hell of a time finding it!  LOL
In the App Library with the Translate app selected, I turned the rotor to 
Actions and now I'm able to access the drag option.  If I drag the app to my 
Home Screen will this put the app in Settings?  From what I understand that 
dragging the app will for lack of a better term create a shortcut on the 
desktop but, the Translate app will physically remain in the App Library.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones


This is very interesting and confusing.

Did you move the app out of the Library?

I have not tried dealing with the extra layer of the App Library.



One way to do the long press in iOS 14 is a single finger triple tap…









Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 🖖



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones



Richard,



I don't have the Translate app in Settings, only in the App Library.  I 
believe you are supposed to invoke the long press gesture to access the 
actions but, apparently I'm not doing the long press correctly.  What is 
correct way to access the actions or the correct way to do a long press 
gesture?  Thanks much.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
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----- Original Message ----- 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 9:42 AM

Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



Make sure and go into settings, Translate, and turn off on device mode.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 🖖



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



Iwilltryagain as so far I haven’t had any luck.

Alison





From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 16:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



I just tried it by typing in a phrase.

I then pressed the Go button which is where the Return button normally is on 
the onscreen keyboard.

It showed the text translation.

I then double tapped the play button and it spoke it.

This is on my SE 1st generation.

It works the same on my SE 2020.

Something to be aware of.

On my phones, the translate settings are in the main settings screen between 
News and Maps.

If On Device Mode is on, for me, I am stuck in a loop where it wants me to 
download the languages, but never does.

I turned On Device Mode off and it works fine.





Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 🖖



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I have been typing the word or phrase in the edit box but a translation is 
neither written nor spoken.

Alison





From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 06:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones



After you double tap the listen button, and finish your speaking, did you 
flick right twice to finish and double tap?

You should hear the phrase and have it in the text field.









Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



  On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Beth G <bethm...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hi,

  I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, but it’s not giving me a audio 
translation. It sounds like it is supposed to speak the translation as well 
as put it in text. Is that right?

  Thank you,

  Beth

  Sent from my iPhone

    On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Maria Campbell <lucky1i...@gmail.com> wrote:



    Did you update to 14.2?





    Maria Campbell

    lucky1i...@gmail.com



    All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do 
nothing.

    --Edmund Burke



      On 11/5/2020 10:09 PM, Mike B wrote:

      Okay, I just did a search and found it's a feature in Safari.



      Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!

      Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite 
government

      program.



      ----- Original Message -----

      From: Mike B

      To: viphone@googlegroups.com

      Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 6:48 PM

      Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones





      Where is this feature found please?



      Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!

      Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite 
government

      program.



      ----- Original Message -----

      From: Richard Turner

      To: viphone@googlegroups.com

      Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM

      Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones





      I just tried it with speaking.



      It defaults to from English to Spanish.



      There is a listen button about an inch and a half up from the home 
button,

      if you have a home button.



      Double tap that listen button, say what you want translated, then 
flick

      twice to the right passed the close button to finished listening and 
double

      tap.



      Then, after a very short time, it says in Spanish what you said in 
English,

      but says it so fast even if I understood Spanish, I am not sure I 
could get

      it.



      But, there is a play button that shows up then that plays the Spanish 
at a

      more reasonable speed.



      There does not seem to be a setting for speed at all.



      I have not tried typing, but I suspect if you type, there is also the 
button

      to translate, then you may hear or be able to read the other language.



      It does also show the text of the Spanish, so it could kind of be used 
to

      teach oneself some useful phrases I think.















      Richard



      "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
pass

      himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient

      hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not

      granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
Edward

      Herbert







      Live long and prosper 🖖







      Check out my web site at: 
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd881ee53ff9f474f436908d882140a30%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637402369859551342%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=KcqvsP4A4PJDellR6gbEJGdZ8yFfOJbpzQkBzfaGa3Y%3D&amp;reserved=0







      From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
CJ &

      AA MAY

      Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:40 AM

      To: viphone@googlegroups.com

      Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones







      I Took a quick look at this new feature yesterday but couldn’t figure 
out

      how to use it. I assume I would type the word or phrase in the 
editfield and

      then it would either speak or show the translation, but nothing 
happened.

      Has anyone else tried it out yet?



      Alison













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