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On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 5:18 PM Mr. Ed <pink...@abe.midco.net> wrote: > Hi Sieghard, > > Yes, I hear you. I have been reading some of the rumors about the 13 > iPhone. My wife has an iPhone 11. I applied to get the iPhone from a > deaf/blind program so there is no cost to me. Like you said I would rather > have the features you are talking about that might be coming on the next > gen models. So we will have to see. If I do get one it would be the iPhone > 12 is my guess at this time. > > Mr. Ed > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel > *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 12:13 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Sorry, Ed, I'm not worried, the border is still closed and in any case I'm > like 100 years younger than you so I can take whatever you can dish out š > > If you are getting an iPhone 12 I'm truly sorry for you, waste of money, > stick it out for another year or get something cheaper, you'll regret > getting the 12 next year. > > OK, joking aside, I'm sure the iPhone 12 is a nice enough phone, but you > are paying a higher price for several features which for most people make > no difference, e.g. 5G, maybe a slightly better camera than you would get > on an iPhone 11 which again for a blind person makes no difference etc. And > if you get a 12 Pro or Pro Max you are rreally throwing away money; many > rumour indicate there is a good chance next year's iPhone will have both > Face Id and Touch Id, better 5G support and much more. In my opinion the > iPhone 12 is a bit like the iPhone X, something they had to release but in > retrospect an in-between sort of phone. You can probably get a much better > deal in the next week or so on an iPhone 11, it is what I recently upgraded > to from my iPhone 8 and it's amazing simply because the battery is > fantastic. On my 2-year old iPhone 8 I usually got the 20% low battery > warming at around 5 or 6 PM after having had it charged to 100% when I left > for work between 8 and 9 > AM, my new iPhone 11 with similar usage patterns is usually at around 60 > to 70% at that same time of the day. Then of course it's a bit snappier and > it supports all the latest features like screen recognition and so on. > > > > > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of > *Mr. Ed > *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2020 1:36 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Okay Sieghard, > > Donāt make me come up to Canada and throttle you. š¤£. I am working on > getting a new iPhone 12 so I will be way ahead of you. LOL > > Mr. Ed > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel > *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2020 11:15 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Ah, seems like Ed's iPhone is almost as ancient as he is! > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of > *Mr. Ed > *Sent:* Saturday, November 21, 2020 11:19 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Well scene description is right above Media description on my 6s plus > running IOS 14.2. What iPhone do you have? > > Mr. Ed > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Jennie Facer > *Sent:* Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:44 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > All I have is media descriptions. I donāt have scene descriptions after > the emoji suffix option. > > > > Jenn > > > > Jenn and Kumi > > > > On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Mr. Ed <pink...@abe.midco.net> wrote: > > ļ»æ > > Hi, > > Here is how I think you have to turn it off on the iPhone 6s, 7, 8. First > of all you have to have IOS 14.2. Installed. Go to accessibility/boice > over/verbosity, then go all the way to the bottom of the list with a four > finger tap and itās the second one up which says scene description. Double > tap on this and when in here turn off scene description. Then below that is > apply to apps. If you open this up it shows all your apps and they are all > selected. If you donāt want scene description turn off on a certain app you > unselect it. > > Mr. Ed > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Arnold Schmidt > *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2020 10:58 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be > a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up > turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is > in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later > today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to > get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very > much. > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti <diane1lu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > ļ»æ Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I > donāt get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to > have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I > found worked is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where > you can put it in there and when itās in there it says if you Flick up or > down itāll say on or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want > that to say, just click it off. You donāt have to go in it, but you just go > to where it says off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for > me. Let me know if anyone tries it and good luck. > > Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > > > > On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > ļ»æ > > I kind of feel the same way. Itās not like I have to wait until VoiceOver > stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is > kind of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their > phone. That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they > consider to be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, > and at least in the case of image recognition, Appleās intent was to make > it configurable. Therefore, if youāre still hearing this text after youāve > tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely > be reported to Apple. > > > > -- > > Christopher (AKA CJ) > > Chaltain at Gmail > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of > *Angie Nutt > *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > I donāt find it intrusive either; if anything itās fascinating. I wonder > whether itās trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen Iām on. > > > > All the best > > Angie > > > > On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. > I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I > have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since > it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does > not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever > I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. > > Be well, > Wayne Merritt > > On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah Iām following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the > older phones. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If > you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running > 14.2 > on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have > experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the > image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image > feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know > just > what it is. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com > <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com <deblewi...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > ļ»æ > > Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesnāt even have the > recognition > mode because itās too old although it did get 14.2. > > Every time I call Iām holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so Iāll > probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>> > <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>> > On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it > might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the > screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it > was > trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition > gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, > didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, > being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will > allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the > others > who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more > complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com > <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com <chalt...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > ļ»æ > > Isnāt this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings > -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. > > > > -- > > Christopher (AKA CJ) > > Chaltain at Gmail > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>> > <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>> > On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to > describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has > told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. > I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak > screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running > 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried > twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods > both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson <fireka...@gmail.com > <mailto:fireka...@gmail.com <fireka...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > ļ»æ > > I do too and itās irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. > > > > Viola > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>> > <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>> > On Behalf Of > Reg Sullivan > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>> > Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Iām seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? > > ānight skyā > > > > Anyone out there know what it represents? > > > > Regardsā¦..Reg > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of > Noe Villeda > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <viphone@googlegroups.com>> > Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Hello Listers, > > > > What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? > > > > Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesnāt show along > with flashlight and battery usage? > > > > Noe > > > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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