Hi David, Len and others,

My 4S which does have the volume issue during a call also has the issue with
VO reading out the call duration. What happens for me is that often when I
answer a call on  my headset everything is fine. If the call is longer,
after 2 or so minutes the screen will lock and Voiceover will say "Screen
Locked". Then maybe 20 or 30 seconds later it will start announcing the call
duration about every 20 or so seconds even if I had previously moved focus
away from that during the same phone call.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Len Burns
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: vo talking during phone calls

David,

I have enough troubleshooting experience to have done the below as you
describe.  And, VO still ends up on the time.  I am not being highly
critical of Apple nor the phone, just stating an observation that I have
duplicated many times as have several others I know who are equally careful.
This has been true both in 5.1.1 and 6.0 with my 4S.

Regards,
-Len

On 10/27/2012 3:52 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
> Yes, but the factor may be the person brushing the phone so lightly that
they don't notice it after double-tapping the call button. I have done this
and it will place the focus where the body part brushes the phone. All it
takes is the merest contact. The touch-screen is not pressure sensitive, it
is contact sensitive. Now, if you ensure that VO is not highlighting the
call timer, close the phone app, have your headset connected, use the button
on the headset chord to activate Siri, and voice-dial a number / contact,
you will have eliminated all possibilities of touching the screen
inadvertently. If VO starts reading the call timer then, you have definitely
found a bug. VO remains on the field it was last on when the call screen
pops up. Using the above method, I have never been able to cause the
troubling behaviour.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 28/10/2012, at 11:35, Len Burns <len.bu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> While I know the below happens, I have seen the same thing occur with 
>> an earpiece on, phone lying on the table with nothing near it.  So, I 
>> believe there is something going on here that is not always a human
factor.
>>
>> -Len
>>
>> On 10/27/2012 1:19 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> Hi, also for what it's worth, I don't feel this is a bug like I've 
>>> seen others say it is. If there is any sort of bug it's that if 
>>> Voice Over is automatically placing focus on the timer, then yes, 
>>> that needs to be addressed, however I would venture a guess, coming 
>>> from a training point of view, that more often than not, it's the 
>>> person who accidentally touches the timer. A good way it's been 
>>> done, and it's happened to me is when I was putting the phone next 
>>> to my ear, my lobe touched the screen in just the right place. I 
>>> guess I have really big ears. Sure enough, the timer started telling 
>>> me all the length of the call. A simple touch to somewhere else solved
that problem.
>>>
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>>> On 10/26/2012 4:54 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
>>>> VO reads whatever is in the area you've highlighted with a touch. 
>>>> If it starts reading the call timer and did not do so before, this 
>>>> is because you touched, no matter how lightly, the call timer. Take 
>>>> the iPhone away from your ear to activate the touch-screen and move 
>>>> VO to another field either by touching a different area on the 
>>>> screen, or using a right or left flick. If you have headphones on, 
>>>> the touch-screen always remains active.
>>>>
>>>> To silence VO, you can either do a three-finger double-tap to mute 
>>>> speech, or you can use a triple-tap of the home button to unload VO.
>>>> Just remember to use the same gesture when you are finished with 
>>>> your call to get VO talking again.
>>>>
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On 27/10/2012, at 6:40, Donald Raikes <don.rai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I had the experience yesterday of making a couple of calls some 
>>>>> with the wired headset and some without.
>>>>>
>>>>> In both cases, VO started talking in the middle ofthe call.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would say screen dimmed and phone locked, and on one of hte 
>>>>> calls I made with the headset, it kept reading the time every few
seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously this makes it very hard to hear the person on the other 
>>>>> end of the call.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any tips on how to get VO to stop talking while I am on a call 
>>>>> would be appreciated.
>>>>>
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