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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 9:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones I agree with Sieghard on all counts. Face ID works quite well, blind or not, and also finger dexterity might make entering a passcode hard, but it shouldn’t effect touch ID since you just have to touch the home button after training it, and training it is just touching it at slightly different angles until it learns your finger. And, on upgrading, unless you need a new phone right now because your current phone is malfunctioning, wait and see what the 13 offers, plus, the 11 prices will drop when the 13 comes out. Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. My web site, <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones Not sure what being blind has to do with Face Id and being able to unlock your phone way easier and faster. I really hate it now when I have to unlock my phone in a store or authenticate a purchase and wearing my mask requires me to put in my passcode. I have an Apple Watch so I can't wait for 14.5 getting released because Apple has made it possible to do all that with Face Id and a mask on as long as you also wear your Apple Watch. I often want to check something when I am walking along with my dog and with Face I d I can just pull my phone out of it's belt case with my right hand, I can usually manage a swipe up and then I just glance at my phone and it unlocks. If iI have to enter my PIN I have to stop, drop the harness and use two hands. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Wendy Lin Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 7:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones I’ve always stuck to passcode. I don’t see the use of Face ID since I’m blind, and my degstarity is not the greatest for Touch ID. Wendy On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net <mailto:wb...@swbell.net> > wrote: No reason to wait. Face ID is seamless and superior to touch ID. You won't regret making the upgrade. Don't waste your time or money on the iPhone 11, 5G is the future. - Brad - On Mar 10, 2021, at 06:18, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the Face ID since there is no touch ID. It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to wait until we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall. Rumor has it that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID. But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good deals on the 11. Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some carriers charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently offer it since that is part of the iPhone 12. HTH, Richard "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com <mailto:chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote: No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which have home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, and it didn’t take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the bottom of the screen to get to the home page or bring up the app switcher. You also use the other physical buttons to do things like toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the phone. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ken Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: thinking of up grading phones Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, too using a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade. Kenny -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . 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