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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2021 3:40 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apologies [was "RE: Masks & Face ID"] My apologies to Simon and the list. I thought this was just going to Marco. I should have checked more carefully before hitting the send button. I’ll accept whatever punishment Mark things is appropriate, and I hope Simon accepts my apology. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 9:38 AM To: Marco Curralejo <marco.c...@gmail.com<mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com>>; viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID I agree! I actually don’t think Simon is trying to spread harmful information. Based on his other posts, I think he’s just kind of arrogant and doesn’t think much about what he posts. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: Marco Curralejo <marco.c...@gmail.com<mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com>> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 6:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com<mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID Couldn't agree more karma which is why I stated that these sorts of messages are ridiculous in the context given. Also completely agree that countries like Australia and New Zealand should be applauded for their efforts. Unfortunately, this person from New Zealand should not be applauded for his effort. On 15 March 2021 19:38:32 Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com<mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote: I completely agree that New Zealand should be held up as a model of a nation that dealt with the pandemic aggressively and therefore avoided a lot of the disruptions to the health system causing unnecessary loss of life and also allowed their economy to recover more quickly. The mocking way you phrase this, by asking questions like “Why do you need to wear face masks?”, especially the first time you asked this where you didn’t make the connection with New Zealand, comes across as ridiculing efforts in the US and other places where wearing masks is a key part of being able to open the economy up safely. It’s similar to how those who fight against mask wearing policies call the rest of us “sheople” for taking our CDC guidelines seriously and who think a tiny inconvenience, like wearing a mask, is well worth saving lives and safely reopening our economy. The fact that you also keep asking this same question, even after people explain to you why we wear masks in the US, and you obviously know that it’s a political issue over here, makes one wonder why you keep bringing it up the way you do. Curiosity is a good reason to ask a question, and using a question to point out what New Zealand did right, is also OK, but asking a question just to be inflammatory and stir up traffic on a mailing list is something that should be handled by the list moderator. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 10:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID It’s not rediculis, it’s fact, We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact that we have little if not any current cases of covid, It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of this virus, It’s like the saying, Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted, May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they didn’t do more to keep you safe from this virus, Plus we only have 5 million population, And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres, It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others, But it’s also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the virus out. May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other countrys Have treated this globle situation, From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marco Curralejo Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you get a ridiculous post from anywhere regarding this matter, the list owner should really pull the reigns on this one and not allow such an idiotic post to even get on to the list. That’s all I have to say with regards to this stupidity. Marco The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:35 PM To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID Posts like the below by Simon are dangerous, and should not be permitted on list. That's all I have to say on this topic. On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:33 PM Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Why do you need to wear face masks? I have yet to buy or own a face mask and haven't worn one in the year that we've dealt with face masks, Don't even know anyone that has worn one, Guess its one of the great things about living in the nation of New Zealand! -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:38 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID A doctor from Jons Hopkins says that Covid will be mostly gone by April so the necessity to wear face masks will be ending soon. Kelly On 3/12/21, Maria Reyes <sassyblindg...@gmail.com<mailto:sassyblindg...@gmail.com>> wrote: > yeah it'll be interesting to see how that new feature works. > > want to talk about all aspects of blindness? Join the blind chatroom > list by sending an email to > blind-chatroom-requ...@freelists.org<mailto:blind-chatroom-requ...@freelists.org> > with > subscribe in the subject > >> On Mar 11, 2021, at 10:07 PM, Wendy Lin >> <wendy9...@hotmail.com<mailto:wendy9...@hotmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Well based on the Youtube videos I’ve watched from Apple Insider and >> 9to5 Mac, the Face ID feature with the masks will only work to unlock >> your phone if you have an Apple Watch. >> >> Wendy >> >>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Simon A Fogarty >>> <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Richard, >>> >>> IOS 14 also allows you to have an alternate face in your face id >>> settings, >>> >>> So in a way you can have both faces in there. >>> >>> If you have two faces that is. >>> >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf >>> Of Richard Turner >>> Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:46 am >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID >>> >>> You can only have one face, but apparently it looks like iOS 14.5 >>> will allow for masks during face ID. Not sure how that will work, >>> but those who have a phone with face ID can find out once 14.5 is released. >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical >>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. >>> >>> >>> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: >>> viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >>> On Behalf >>> Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:44 AM >>> To: 'VIPhone' <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >>> Subject: Masks & Face ID >>> >>> I have an IPhone 8 so still use touch id. When you set that up you >>> can set it up for more than one finger. With face id, can you set >>> it up with more than one face? If so, you could have both masked & >>> unmasked faces for use in unlocking the phone. 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