I was thinking the same thing.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 11:11 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Kelly,

Just out of curiosity, who is your cell phone carrier because they made a real 
pig's breakfast of your order and I wouldn't want to experience something 
similar. I have much better luck buying my new iPhones directly from apple.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

For those wondering, I originally planned to upgrade to an iPhone 12 Mini, but 
my cell phone carrier sent me a regular iPhone 12 instead.
It took a few weeks to return the phone and receive a full refund. As it turns 
out, the phone could not be returned without activating the new SIM card sent 
with the iPhone 12. When the new SIM was activated, the SIM in my iPhone 7 was 
instantly deactivated. Instead of giving me a new SIM for my iPhone 7, the cell 
phone store put the iPhone 12 SIM in my iPhone 7. Because the network showed 
the iPhone 12 SIM in active use, the actual iPhone 12 SIM return could not be 
processed.
Eventually, the iPhone 12 SIM was deactivated and I returned to the cell phone 
store to return my phone and have a new SIM put into my iPhone 7.  Apparently, 
cell phone companies are extremely picky associating the data attached to each 
SIM to the exact device. Part of the issue is that the iPhone 12 is a 5g device 
and needs to access certain frequencies not used by the 7. Therefore, it would 
be a waste of network resources to set aside resources for my 7 on 5g 
frequencies when they cannot be used.

After the return was processed at the national service center, I was not 
credited for my initial down payment so I needed to call customer service for 
resolution.  Once my account issues were resolved, I discovered all the 256GB 
iPhone Minis were on a more than two-week backorder.  Now it sounds like the 
backorder has cleared, but it is about six months before the release of the 
2021 iPhone lineup. With a vastly improved 5G chip from QUALCOMM, increased 
battery size, more storage, and LiDAR technology on all phones, this year s 
lineup is set to be more impressive than the iPhone 12 series. This is why I 
will be waiting for the new iPhone mini rather than upgrading now. I very much 
like the new design that started with the 12 series of distinctive colors and 
flat edges, making it feel like a premium computational tool. The rounded edge 
design that began with the iPhone 6 in 2014 suggested to me the phone was a 
1960s science experiment.

Kelly


On 3/15/21, Dan Yates <danneyya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Got my iPhone mini in December and have enjoyed it, no problems that I 
> have seen so far! Definitely like the scaled down size! Had the iPhone 
> X r before!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 11:06 PM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?That's what Microsoft did with office 13, They called it version 14 
>> due to the super stission Of the number 13,
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2021 4:02 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid 
>> tepid demand
>>
>> He said he is planning to replace his current iPhone 7 with the 2021 
>> Mini, this would be the upcoming iPhone 13 Mini or whatever it will 
>> be called, some think Apple won't call this year's iPhones by the 
>> number 13 because of the supersticious nonsense regarding that number.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Maria Campbell
>> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2021 7:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid 
>> tepid demand
>>
>> I seriously considered the 12 mini before deciding on the SE20.
>>
>>
>> Maria Campbell
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>>
>> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do 
>> nothing.
>> --Edmund Burke
>>
>>> On 3/12/2021 11:28 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:
>>> I am planning on replacing my iPhone 7 with the 2021 iPhone Mini. I 
>>> very much want a smaller device with the same functionality of the 
>>> bigger phones. Battery size is relative. The iPhone 7, released in 
>>> 2016, as a battery size of 1960 milliampere hours. The iPhone 8 and 
>>> SE second generation have battery sizes of 1820 mAh.  The iPhone 12 
>>> mini has a battery size of 2227 mAh, bigger than the iPhone 7 and 8 
>>> but smaller than the regular iPhone 12 which is 2815 mAh.  When 
>>> compared in actual use, which Apple wants consumers to consider, the
>>> 12 Mini plays audio and video longer than the 7 or 8.  I bought the
>>> 7 in October 2016 and have not changed the battery since. It still 
>>> lasts a reasonable amount.  People like to find something on which 
>>> to criticize an Apple device without placing their criticism in context.
>>> The other criticism is that Apple phones have shorter battery life 
>>> than Android flagship phones. Apple could easily increase the 
>>> thickness of the phones, but people want light digital tools in 
>>> their hands and pockets not bricks.
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 3/11/21, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> Interesting,
>>>>
>>>> I have t heard of anyone  purchasing one yet but I was lead to 
>>>> believe that the battery life wasn t great in the mini,
>>>>
>>>> It was really the size that they were pushing as a replacement size 
>>>> or format to that of the SE but with the face id and 5g features.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what this does for the 13 s format range.
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>>> Of Brad Snyder
>>>> Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:30 am
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid 
>>>> demand
>>>>
>>>> Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand 
>>>> Mikey Campbell<https://appleinsider.com/editor/Mikey+Campbell>Mar
>>>> 10,
>>>> 2021 [Image removed by sender. article thumbnail]
>>>>
>>>> Apple has informed partner suppliers that it has reduced iPhone 12 
>>>> mini<https://appleinsider.com/inside/iphone-12-mini> production 
>>>> plans for the first half of 2021, with manufacturing of some 
>>>> specialty parts suspended altogether, according to a report on Wednesday.
>>>>
>>>> Citing industry sources familiar with the matter, Nikkei reports 
>>>> major suppliers were recently
>>>> informed<https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQODZ101TZ0Q1A310C200000
>>>> 0/
>>>>> of the production shift that marks a change in Apple's procurement 
>>>>> strategy.
>>>> Prior to the reported downward revision, the tech giant was 
>>>> aggressively buying semiconductors, printed circuit boards and 
>>>> displays amid a worldwide parts shortage.
>>>>
>>>> Apple is targeting output at around 75 million iPhone units for the 
>>>> first half of 2021, down 20% from December 2020, the report says.
>>>> Much of that downgrade is blamed on iPhone 12 mini. Nikkeisources 
>>>> note that demand for other iPhone models like the iPhone 12 
>>>> Pro<https://appleinsider.com/inside/iPhone-12-Pro>remains strong.
>>>>
>>>> Today's report echoes rumblings out of Apple's Asian supply chain 
>>>> in 
>>>> January<https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/01/22/apple-shifts-mor
>>>> e-
>>>> production-from-iphone-12-mini-to-iphone-12-pro>when
>>>> Pegatron supposedly saw reduced orders for the diminutive iPhone.
>>>> Foxconn, which is tasked with assembling the iPhone 12 Pro and 12 
>>>> Pro Max<https://appleinsider.com/inside/iPhone-12-Pro-Max>,
>>>> received an increase in orders for those models during the same period.
>>>>
>>>> Watch the Latest from AppleInsider TV
>>>>
>>>> The BEST MagSafe Accessories for iPhone 12! (So Far!)
>>>>
>>>> Apple introduced iPhone 12 mini last fall as an alternative to its 
>>>> flagship range, which has over the years entered into "phablet"
>>>> territory. Though it sports a modest 5.4-inch display, the 12 mini 
>>>> integrates all the trappings of a modern iPhone including 5G 
>>>> connectivity, A14 Bionic processor, dual 12MP cameras with optical 
>>>> image stabilization, Face ID authentication and more.
>>>>
>>>> Word of a soft demand first surfaced in 
>>>> November<https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/11/25/kuo-apples-majo
>>>> r-
>>>> product-lines-enjoy-healthy-demand-in-q4-but-airpods-shipments-muted>
>>>> with TF Securities analyst Ming-Chi 
>>>> Kuo<https://appleinsider.com/inside/ming-chi-kuo> modeling lower 
>>>> than expected demand.
>>>> AppleInsider has affiliate partnerships and may earn commission on 
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