That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I have a defective set. I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode. I’ll be calling apple today.
Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours Hi Richard, I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as I now know I can use both devices without difficulty. Best, Les From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours Les, one question for you since you have them. Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on transparency mode, but it seems odd to me. I'm just wondering if this is normal. Thanks, Richard "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it every day and I really enjoy it." -- Author unknown On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com<mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Richard, I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, so I will check that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off over six equal payments on my Apple Card, as well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not a lot, but everything helps! Best, Les From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very sturdy and solid they feel. I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality! Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with pouch. I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing. However, this one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon. My wife says it still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite sturdy. I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to go into a deep sleep… Now, as for the headphones themselves… I am quite seriously impressed! Yes, they are heavier than the average headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them on. Yes, they are warm. It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much I'll want to have them on. But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they are fabulous! One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode. There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones. While you are listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing the sound quality of whatever you are listening to. Unlike other things I have had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo. So, if someone speaks to you from your left side, you hear it on your left side. Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it. So, when Noise Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out. I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the living room, the sound came over my speakers. Well, I turned on Noise Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music. Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not enough to identify it or be bothered by it. Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc. It is over price. But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my Dell laptop. I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them with the computer for Jaws. They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even. Unlike my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the cable even if the battery is dead. But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the cable. There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that works all the time when the cable is plugged in. But, if you press the button that toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on. It is nowhere near as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's happening around you more than with it off. I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last. There are only two buttons on the right ear. They are on the top on either side of the bar that goes over your head. The one on the side of the bar nearest your face is a rectangular/oval button that toggles between Noise Cancelation and Transparency Mode. The one on the other side of the bar is the round, Digital Crown. Like a large version of the one on the watch. That is used for volume, pausing and playing, and holding it to ask siri. That is all I know so far. Later, Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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