Here is some info about the iPHone SE 2020, or as Apple calls it the SE 2nd 
Generation.

It came out after the iPHone 11, so it has the same chip as the 11 and the same 
camera processing, though with only one camera, which is all you need for blind 
applications like OCR, Object recognition and good basic picture taking.

I use my iPhone SE 2ND Gen a lot and I sometimes can go about 10 hours between 
charges.
I would say 8 hours is solid.
It blows the iPhone 8 out of the water for performance.  Not to mention it has 
the same water resistance as the 11.

It just came out a year ago, so it is easily the best phone with a home button 
unless you have to have the larger screen that the 11 has.

MY only regret after a year is that I did not buy the 256 GB phone, but the 128 
GB.
I have a ton of music and seem to be adding more and more stuff.
Time to delete things.
But, it is a great phone.

I would recommend though, wait and see what the 13 offers this fall.
Unless you need a phone now.

See if they bring back any kind of finger sensor.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Interesting, do you know what the battery life is compared to an iPhone 8?
I usually charge my 8 every night because the apps I run seem to take a lot of 
battery.
Johna

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 1:39 PM
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Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Its camera is perfect for things like Seeing AI and other Apps that the 
visually impaired need.

It is extremely fast.  A lot faster than the iPhone 8.  And, since it is 
exactly the same size as an iPhone 8, it fits the same cases.

As far as I can tell, its battery is just a bit too small.

I have to charge my SE 2020 once a day.  It gets used around 7 to 8 hours every 
day.

Its the least expensive iPhone model out there with a small screen and a bunch 
of camera features that I will never never, use.

Cheers,

James B  .

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<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
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What are the differences between a regular iPhone and the SE Model?  Aren’t 
there some limitations to what it can do verses a regular model?
I thought I read somewhere that the speed isn’t as fast nor is the camera as 
good
Johna

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<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:51 PM
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Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:21 AM
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That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


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Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A 
<timlehm...@missouristate.edu<mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu>> wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have
> a nice day!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the
> human, am not.--Joe
>
> On 4/8/21, Richard Turner 
> <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
>> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way
>> they need to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: 
>> www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com%3chttp:/www.turner42.com>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>> Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
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>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
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>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com%3cmailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>> that is what happened to me as well. Even with the pause in between.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Byrne"
>> <ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net%3cmailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>>
>> To: 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>>
>> When I tap twice, the stinker says "9:19 PM".  that isn't what I had
>> in mind.
>> At 09:12 PM 4/7/2021, you wrote:
>>
>> Try a slight pause between the taps, roughly a half second or so. It
>> works for me.
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>> “Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven† – Satan, from
>> Milton’s Paradise Lost
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Ann Byrne
>> <<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:annakb@sbcg<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net%3eann...@sbcglobal.net%3cmailto:annakb@sbcg>
>> lobal.net>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I cannot get my watch to vibrate the time instead of speaking it.
>> when I teach, I don't want my students to know I'm checking the time,
>> but the stinkin' watch just shouts it out even though I carefully
>> double-tap or sometimes tripple-tap to get it to vibrate.  I have
>> checked the settings and believe they are correct.  Do you have to
>> tap on a certain area of the watch perhaps?  I have tried different
>> segments, but it doesn't seem to matter.
>>
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