Except at the high end where wired is better for examples in recording studios
But for the average person, Wireless is cleaner -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 7:46 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap Well bluetooth headphones need to have charge for a week. I get tired of recharging. Wired is still good even if it's lightning or usb C. On 4/15/21, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: > They may have been the first to drop the headphone jack, but many > others have followed and will continue to follow. Wired headphones are going > away. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 15, 2021, at 12:18 PM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't >> for get the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, >> and airpods when they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them >> not putting them in the box. >> >>> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw >>> where Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them >>> or Google with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just >>> don’t need all this extra crap going out into the environment. I >>> have an iPad charger from a really old iPad mini that still works >>> just fine. And of course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a >>> USB see power block which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It >>> didn’t exactly break the bank. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz >>>> <cristobalm...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and >>>> accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I >>>> also definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a >>>> convenient and specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut >>>> the cost of production and logistics and still charge the same >>>> under the cover of being environmentally conscious. >>>> Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is >>>> going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of >>>> buying an iPhone. Just more nickel and diming from Apple. >>>> Cristóbal >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Richard Turner >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:34 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap >>>> >>>> Apple says it is for the environment because most people have all >>>> the chargers they need and more. >>>> That is certainly true in our household. >>>> I happen to agree with Apple in this case. >>>> We have enough (Expletive deleted) stuff in the landfills and ocean >>>> now to last many life times. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for >>>> it, but what they become by it." >>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900 >>>> >>>> Web site: www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Mich Verrier >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:30 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq >>>> >>>> From what I herd apple is not shipping any of there phones with >>>> chargers since they want you to buy them seppritley since you have >>>> to remember that apple's main thing is to make money. O shure apple >>>> has dun good for the blind and vi comunidey with voice over and >>>> stuff how ever you have to remember that the mane objective for >>>> apple is to make more money. From Mich. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Maria Campbell >>>> Sent: April 15, 2021 1:27 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Apple getting cheapq >>>> >>>> My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger. How cheap is that >>>> considering it's so proprietary? 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