Hello:
Hey Rich I think you’re correct in fact I’ve never had it happen with AirPlay 
speakers but with Bose speakers that are Bluetooth and also echo speakers that 
are Bluetooth I’ve had it happen so if you can stay away from Bluetooth 
speakers you’re OK.
But if you try to use Bluetooth speakers you should be able to reproduce the 
problem.



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Well, since my speaker doesn’t have that behavior, maybe it is not speaker 
specific, but maybe a class of speakers.

Those are “smart” devices, Smart being a very iffy term, while mine is a dumb 
speaker with no frills.



I will try to connect my iPhone to our Echo Show and see if that happens, which 
should help figure out this crazy tech strangeness.







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Hello Richard:

I have the Bose sound link speakers.

But it doesn’t really matter I also have an echo to and an echo plus and I can 
make the problem happen on them also. So to me it’s not speaker related.





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Which speaker do you have?







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Hello everybody:

I was able to get a hold of Apple accessibility and they log the problem with 
their Apple support tools. I was able to duplicate the problem for them.

And Arnold your fix didn’t change anything but I’ll play with it throughout the 
day. Thanks for your suggestion. I hope somebody else can cause the trouble to 
because it’s very consistent it happens on my iPhone X my iPhone 12 so I’ll 
keep you posted.





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I wonder if this might help. When it happens, turn the volume on your phone all 
the way down, until you don't hear anything. Now, turn the volume on your 
speaker all the way down, hit it three or four times to make sure it is all the 
way down. Now, start turning up the volume on your phone until the

volume is what you want. Or, sometimes, you have to turn up the volume on your 
speaker, rather than the phone. Sometimes one, sometimes the other. Lay around 
with it to see if you can fix it.



Arnold Schmidt



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Hello Richard:



Change with Buttons Is off.







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Check your settings, Sound, change with buttons.

If that is not off, that’s your problem.

I keep that setting off, so the volume buttons don’t mess with VoiceOver.

I just connected a Bluetooth speaker, played a BARD book, playing with the 
volume buttons all over the place, and VoiceOver never got out of line.  I.E. 
Its volume stayed normal.









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Steps to reproduce the problem

Add a speaker to Bluetooth settings.

Go into bard and start playing a book

Use the volume up and down button to set the volume of the speaker you’re 
playing through.

While in bard just use voiceover normally.

You’ll find that there are two volumes with voiceover. One of them is the 
volume that you set in the rotor and the other one is actually unknown to me at 
this point that one is very loud and uncontrollable.



Questions:

One which volume setting is that voice coming from? To how do you control that 
volume?

Notes

If you want to change set your system up to be normal again just disconnect the 
Bluetooth







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