Richard,
The apps that I use that screen recognition makes the app accessible are
UCHealth. This app is mostly accessible. SR is needed to get drop down menus to
open, put focus on text fields for entering in dates. Getting out., this app is
mostly accessible. SR is needed to open drop down menus, access text fields for
entering dates, credit card info & the I agree check box. Go visits, SR is
needed to enter dates & drop down menus, so that the entire list of menu items
are visible & can be selected. Radish, this app is the least accessible of the
4 apps. Without SR most of the elements of the app are not visible & can not be
activated by tapping. With the use of SR the tab bar along the bottom is
visible, the Back arrows are visible, other tabs within the app can be
activated by tapping. SR has to be toggled On/Off a lot during use of the app.
A good understanding & how to use SR is most definitely necessary. A new iPhone
user may have trouble using the app.
Donna
>
>
> Donna
> Would you mind sharing the name of the apps where Screen Recognition helps?
> If not, tha tis fine.
>
>
>
> Richard
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Donna
> Casteen
> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2021 11:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>
> I have 4 apps in which screen recognition helps with making certain parts of
> each app accessible. Without screen recognition these apps would be
> unaccessible to voiceover users. The problem with screen recognitions
> usability within an app isn't consistent. With the inconsistent behavior
> within any one app, this confuses most voiceover users. The biggest problem &
> it is inconsistent- When an app is updated, screen recognition gets turned on
> during the update. & when an app is first downloaded screen recognition is on
> by default. This is also inconsistent. I have yet figured out why some apps,
> when being updated or downloaded for the first time, screen recognition gets
> turned on, while other apps screen recognition has to be turned on by the
> rotor or selecting the app in voice recognition in accessibility voiceover
> settings. Unfortunately, I have no second device in which to use to beta test
> screen recognition, so that the feature is usable for all voiceover users.
> Screen recognition is a great feature when it works as intended.
>
> Donna
>
>
>
> I just tested this, I have screen recognition turned on in Voiceover
> Settings, but all apps were deselected. I tried this now by selecting Aira
> and 3 random other apps and I can confirm that none of these apps worked
> after I selected them for screen recognition.
> They would open and were in the app switcher, but the only part of the screen
> Voiceover would read was the status bar at the top, anywhere else on the
> screen it would just ding.
> I then turned/deselected these apps again and still Voiceover would not read
> anything even removing the apps from the app switcher and trying again was
> the same, only after closing all apps and turning my iphone off and back on
> restored the prior behaviour where Aira and the other apps would again work
> as before. I should also mention that with these apps selected for Screen
> Recognition in Settings, the Screen Recognition rotor item was not present,
> now after deselecting thema nd rebooting the iPhone, screen recognition is
> once again available in the rotor and turning it on from inside the app does
> not make the app unusable, it will just make it less useable in some cases as
> I described yesterday using Facebook and the App Store as examples.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dana
> Leet
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>
> Good morning everyone. I thought I would respond to this message in hopes
> that a lot of you will read it. There is definitely a major bug with this
> latest iOS update 14.6 it is happening on my husband and my SE 2020s and it
> makes sense Vickie that it’s happening on your iPad for some reason if you
> ever turn screen recognition on we are finding that some apps are refusing to
> open. My husband is not able to get Outlook or Aira to open on his phone and
> I downloaded a new app last night and it would not open on my phone. We
> contacted Apple support, and they had us do screen sharing that and they are
> advising anyone who is having these problems to contact Apple and have it
> screen shared so that they can figure out what is going on because it is
> happening where many of us due to this latest update are having trouble
> opening apps. I am certainly hoping that my voice stream does not mess up
> because I have thousands of books in it
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> On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Vicki W. <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> I know there are a couple of places where you can delete the app, but which
> is the best place and then do I just look under my purchased apps to
> reinstall it?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:56 AM
> Subject: RE: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>
> When you did get into VDR, did you re-login to Bookshare, assuming you were
> using Bookshare?
> His update a little while ago added Bookshare version 2 and that required
> reentering one’s login information.
>
> I have VDR working fine on my SE 2020 with the latest updates.
> I am not sure what to recommend, other than the extreme step of deleting the
> app and reinstalling it; which I know is a royal pain and may lose some
> documents.
> Also, writing winston directly at wins...@voicedream.com
>
>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Vicki
> W.
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 AM
> To: IPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Serious Problem With Voice Dream Reader
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem with Voice Dream Reader on my mini IPad five since the last
> update of IOS and the VDR app. I usually make sure everything is working
> before I update something else, but, of course, I was in a hurry and updated
> IOS first and then my apps shortly after that without at least checking those
> apps which I use every day. All of my other apps are working fine, but VDR is
> broken! Below is a list of things that are happening.
>
> 1. Whenever I try to open VDR, it goes to my home screen. It shows up in the
> app switcher, but I get the same result when I try to open it from there as
> well. It simply will not allow me access.
>
> 2. When VDR appears to be running, my app switcher will not switch from one
> app to another with the four-finger side swipe. It goes directly to my home
> screen instead.
>
> 3. If I have several apps running in the app switcher, including VDR, when I
> close one, VDR just vanishes as if it wasn't ever there and at that point my
> app switcher will work properly with the other apps.
>
> 4. If I open IOS settings, go into VDR settings, it seems as though it is
> functioning as far as accessing the settings in the IOS settings. However, if
> I close IOS settings, when I reopen it, instead of opening up the last
> setting I was checking, as it has always done, it won't open VDR settings,
> but opens the previous one I was checking instead.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried looking at every setting I can think
> of, opening and closing other apps so the app switcher is completely empty,
> turning the mini IPad off and on and nothing fixes it. My older SE phone,
> using the exact same updates, works fine.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Vicki
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