Hi Mark and Malcolm, Thank you Malcolm for what you said, as I feel exactly the same way. WE on this list don't need a babysitter, nor do we need someone to hold our hands. I think it is time we all give Mark and Cara credit for running this list as pleasant and professional as they do! I don't think any of us can expect any more from Mark or Cara! On many lists, when people post something I'm not interested in, I simply delete the message, and move on to another message that I might bee interested in. Thank you so much Mark and Cara, you both are running a great list, and I greatly appreciate it!
Janet -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: mods stop this and migrate the group to groups.io Thank you, Malcolm and, well said. Mark From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 2:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: mods stop this and migrate the group to groups.io I have to say that during the seven years or so I have been a member of this group I have found it to be an extremely informative, friendly and valuable resource. Yes some posts have been off topic over the years and to those who complain about the moderation of the group or your perceived lack of, have you tried contacting Mark directly to voice your concerns? There are instructions on the footer of messages advising this and contact details for moderator and group owner. Mark is in rather a no win situation! I have seen him attacked for being both heavy handed and absent. I have always found him to be a perfectly reasonable man and do remember he has other claims on his hands apart from this group. Let’s get back to what we do best, helping each other! Malcolm Parfitt On 24 Jun 2021, at 09:55, [email protected] wrote: Nimer I myself host several groups on groups.io and have never been charged for them. You are right there are several other discussion list like idevices and if it will go on like this on this group, many intelligent people that can make the difference here will leave what was once a nice groupp here. So mods please do moderate this list! If not, ask someone else to do so. Davy Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens Nimer Jaber Verzonden: donderdag 24 juni 2021 10:50 Aan: Viphone <[email protected]> Onderwerp: Re: mods stop this and migrate the group to groups.io There are other groups on groups.io for such discussion. This group doesn't need migrating. Also, Groups.io now charges for groups, and I can't recommend them to any group that is not grandfathered in. Instead, I recommend either freelists or GoogleGroups. Thanks. On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 1:37 AM <[email protected]> wrote: I also want to stress that this group has to be migrated tot he groups.io system which is very accessible and you have the possibility to online mute threads. Davy Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens Dennis Long Verzonden: donderdag 24 juni 2021 2:23 Aan: [email protected] Onderwerp: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here I run a phones for the blind list. We discuss apple android and other phones. I assure you this would’ve been ended a long time ago. To subscribe to phones for the blind send a message to [email protected] From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 8:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here And clearly, this list is essentially not moderated because this whole side tracking of the thread should have been stopped a long time ago. I’m not a moderator, or several people would be off this list. IN fact, this list is getting to the point that I am more seriously considering unsubscribing. Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here Except that you have no authority. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Jun 2021, at 00:58, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote: No problem. I do it in my spare time when he got angry enough. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Alex Stone <[email protected]> wrote: Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it. ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Les Kriegler <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone <[email protected]> wrote: It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no justice! ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Simon A Fogarty <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here Yeah they’re close, but some times to close, One of our prime ministers back in the 80s Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia They raise the IQ of both countrys From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re welcome to stay where they are ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Simon A Fogarty <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here Hell no alex, They are keeping poisonis things over there, We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia? ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Simon A Fogarty <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not overly possible either? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fanus Buys Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here Hello Simon Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod and Airpods so that I got less than two years use. Regards Fanus From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple? Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites. As for stock sitting on shelves, That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product started it’s sitting on the shelf life. Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your S doesn’t have one. I’d start with www.apple.com And see what happens froom there. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fanus Buys Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here Hello Simon That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made sure that the case stayed fully charged. Regards Fanus From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say about the tech specs. If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fanus Buys Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here Hello Sieghard and list I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if they really know the specs. Regards Fanus From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 75 Million song library will be remastered. And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online: Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy discovery. At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and providing resources to independent artists. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here I also like the new dolby audio. What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing something. When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t it also play using the new dolby surround sound? I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just to experiment. I am using he Beats Solo headphones. I’d appreciate any advice. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Lange Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here Hi, also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using regular Apple earbuds. Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:30:43 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here iOS 14.6, I have not installed any iOS 15 beta From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 9:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here Hi Sieghard Running which IOS version on your phone? Cheers, Simon F From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, 18 June 2021 3:41 pm To: [email protected] Subject: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here Hello, I am not entirely sure if this is rolling out to certain countries only and if everybody is getting this at the same time, but I received a notification from the Music app this morning that Apple's spacial audio was now available. I was informed that with certain headsets from Apple the feature would be automatically turned on, but you can also go into Settings > Music and under the Audio heading look for the Dolby Atmos entry and change it from Automatic to Always On. Once I did this I plugged in my somewhat high-end V-Mota wired headset and listened to some of the demos Apple has available in the Music app under the Browse tab. One of them was demonstrating the difference between Mono, Stereo and Dolby Atmos (also called spacial audio) for the Marvin Gaye song What's Going On. I must admit it did sound pretty impressive and even when I just did this without a headset and with my iPhone lying in landscape mode on my chest just near my chin you can hear the difference. Of course only some music has been recorded or remastered with Dolby Atmos and I guess we'll see if it will really revolutionize music as the guy in the demo claims it will.Apparently Enjoy, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: [email protected]. 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