Years ago sony use to be the way to go. That was a good 25 yr plus ago, Now, they don't even compare with the apple earpods (wired )
I've got 3 pair of the 3.5mm wired apple earpods sitting in a draw for when the current ones break or just die. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 2021 2:34 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds I don't think Apple is actively doing anything to "hold the market" as you say. I doubt anybody at Apple would prevent another company to make a similar earbud and plenty of them exist, but most companies opt to make noise isolating earbuds which go into your ear and block out most fo the external sounds we all rely on. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 7:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds Greetings. A quick update on my situation. I went to the Apple Store over the weekend and ended up buying a couple of extra lightning earbuds. AS someone mentioned, they are the best option currently for the sound and price. I'm kind of a sound/headphone snob, and it doesn't seem like there's a better option out there. Unfortunately, Apple holds the market on their earbuds. Something else I don't agree with them on, but not enough to go wireless or to another platform. I'm not an audiophile, nor am I willing to spend more than $30 on headphones, but I am picky on how headphones feel and sound. I guess it comes down to me being a huge lover of music and how it sounds. Anyway, there you go. Kindly, Wayne Merritt On 6/29/21, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > I am quite certain something like that would be available on Amazon, > if not it may just be necessary to use a separate headset for your > laptop or other devices. I prefer a wireless headset for use with my > laptop because I also have a wireless keyboard and usually don't sit > in front of my laptop when I use it. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Simon A Fogarty > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 8:32 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds > > No, > > Shame, > > I'd love one of those also, > > If you hadn't noticed all notebooks have 3.5mm headphone jacks, so how > do you plug in a set of lightening connector headphones. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Gerardo Corripio > Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 11:41 pm > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds > > Which makes me wonder, is there an adapter to be able to use a > lightning on a 3.5? Let's say that I'd want to use the wired iPhone > earbuds that are lightning, on a Stream, or other device? > > Gera > Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel > >> El 26 jun 2021, a la(s) 12:49 a.m., Sieghard Weitzel >> <siegh...@live.ca> >> escribió: >> >> The 3.5mm to Lightning issue could be resolved with a $10 or less >> adapter. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Wayne Merritt >> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 9:40 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds >> >> All, >> My original purpose in not buying the 'earbuds from Apple was partly >> price, but it was also their construction. Granted, these aren't as >> advanced as other models out there, not to mention the wireless >> choices, but I have had quite a few gradually or suddenly lose sound >> in one ear, exhibit a crackling sound randomly in 1 ear, or even 1 >> earbud set physically came apart while I was listening to an American >> football game. >> Like someone else has said, whenever I get a new device I typically >> buy 1 or 2 extra earbuds, if only to stockpile. My sighted wife has >> had the same issue, though I'm not sure hers has been as frequent as >> mine. Finally, 1 of the recommendations given was for a 3.5mm jack, >> but I would need a Lightning jack or chord for the earbuds. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> >> Wayne Merritt >> Sent from my iPhone 11 >> >>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yah that's true but I also get the sound that I need, >>> >>> I could pay $35 for the apple earpods wired, But hey sony do the job. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Anthony Vece >>> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 12:00 pm >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds >>> >>> Well Simon, you get what you pay for. >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!! >>> >>>>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Simon A Fogarty >>>>> <si...@blinky-net.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yeah I've kept headphones from the phones and iPods I've purchased >>>> over the years, >>>> >>>> And just gone through those as I need them. >>>> >>>> I did give a couple of pair away but the only real issue I have >>>> with them now is that I have a couple of lightening connection >>>> versions sitting in a box, But they don't connect to my notebook >>>> when I'm running windows. >>>> >>>> So I purchased a couple of sony headphones similar design but crap >>>> sound and they cost me $9 each NZ. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>>> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 5:01 am >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds >>>> >>>> I know he said he was looking for alternatives, but for me an >>>> alternative which its inside the ear and blocks off all or most >>>> sound is not an alternative. Despite the fact that the Apple >>>> Earbuds break from time to time I still think they are the best >>>> wired ear buds on the market as far as sound qualiy, functionality >>>> and not blocking out external noise are concerned. If you can find >>>> them for $10 or $15 from sources like eBay, Amazon or GroupOn then >>>> that would be pretty acceptable to me, I would just buy 4 or 5 at a >>>> time and use them up. I use mie all the time and I'm pretty hard on >>>> them as well, just yesterday I accidently dropped them and rolled >>>> over one of the ear pieces with my office chair, ell, so much for >>>> that, if it had been one of the Apple Airpods Pro I would have been a lot >>>> more upset! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Joe Orozco >>>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds >>>> >>>> I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the >>>> Apple EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product >>>> isn’t solving his issue. >>>> >>>> Wayne, try this alternative: >>>> >>>> https://amzn.to/3w65LPX >>>> >>>> Joe >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On 6/24/21, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I bought refurbished EarPods on eBay for $9. It sounds like the >>>>> issue you have with them is price. I was sent a broken EarPod >>>>> once, and it was replaced without hassle. >>>>> >>>>> Kelly >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/24/21, joediner...@gmail.com <joediner...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Wayne, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have not looked in quite a while, however, Groupon used to have >>>>>> official Apple earbuds for approximately $13 a pair, with a >>>>>> slight discount on purchase of multiple pairs e.g. $11 each for >>>>>> purchasing >>>>>> 3 pairs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Wayne Merritt >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:12 PM >>>>>> To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Subject: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds >>>>>> >>>>>> Greetings. After nearly 10 years, I'm losing my attraction to the >>>>>> wired Apple earbuds. It seems like I've gone through several >>>>>> pairs over the last year or so; they don't last as long as >>>>>> advertised; and I am tired of paying Apple's prices. Does anyone >>>>>> know of an alternative to these earbuds? I know that wireless >>>>>> earbuds are the current craze, but I prefer wired ones. I would >>>>>> also like to have the same abilities to adjust volume and handle >>>>>> media/phone calls with the in-line buttons. 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