I don't mean to make you feel bad, but I decided to load it onto my SE 2 to 
find out how it acted. I do not have a subscription so I can't say how, or if 
that would make a difference, but I was able to use it fine. I then closed it 
out of the app switcher and restarted it, with the same results. About the only 
things left to try are reset your phone, reset network settings, then the reset 
all settings. If you have to go that route, do it when you have sighted 
assistance in case voice over doesn't come back on. It does for most people, it 
didn't come back on for me the one time I did it. Hey, that app and voice over 
in your 10R are just prejudiced against each other. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Aug 15, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes. As a matter fact, since recognition is out of my rotor, I had to go into 
that long list of applications to see which ones had it enabled. It was 
enabled, and I did turn it off, and it didn’t make a difference.


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> On Aug 15, 2021, at 8:38 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Even though you turned off Screen recognition, did you double check under 
> the VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition, Apply to Apps, that it isn't 
> selected for the L.A. Times?
> 
> 
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> Richard
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> Otten
> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 8:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one
> 
> Screen recognition is off on the ten r. The 7+ doesn’t have it. And describe 
> images is off on both phones. And I did completely uninstall the app before I 
> sent my first message on this topic. Reinstalled without success. But if I 
> load it with voiceover off, it works. On the 7+, it just works. Don’t have to 
> unload voiceover first.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 15, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Did you make sure screen recognition is set the same way on both phones? I 
>> have seen apps which work perfectly well without screen recognition and 
>> which are completely messed up when it's turned on.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: August 14, 2021 1:52 PM
>> To: via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one
>> 
>> I have been a subscriber to the Los Angeles times for a while now. I use the 
>> app on my phone. However, with my 10 R, the app appears to load but nothing 
>> is showing up on the screen for voiceover. With my older 7+, the app blows 
>> as it should and everything shows up. I’m running the same version of the 
>> operating system on both devices, and I have reinstalled the app on my 10r 
>> to no avail. I don’t get it. Has anyone seen this problem with an app? How 
>> to fix it?
>> 
>> 
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