Thanks Shane,
I am intending to get one of the iPhone 13 models when they come out and will 
certainly try out the Super LLIDAR app then.

I assume it is pointless to download it on a device without LIDAR.

Thanks,




Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Shane 
Lowe
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 7:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: LIDAR, was RE: A chip question

Hi, sorry I'm late to the discussion!
We do have an app called Super Lidar, which is completely free. If you have the 
chance to try it out; I'd love to hear what you think. We're also happy to 
bring in some new beta testers, if you're interested in that as well. :)

On 8/12/21, Kay Malmquist <kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, that was what it was now that you mention it.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Turner" <richardturne...@outlook.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 5:07 PM
> Subject: RE: LIDAR, was RE: A chip question
>
>
> I think supersense has a whole other app called SuperLidar which I 
> have not
>
> looked into since I don't have a phone with LIDAR yet.
> I don't know if it is another paid app.
> Seeing AI is free, so worth checking out to see what it is like.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
> Web site: 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 3:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: LIDAR, was RE: A chip question
>
> Aren't they using it with Supersense or something like that?
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Turner" <richardturne...@outlook.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 4:20 PM
> Subject: LIDAR, was RE: A chip question
>
>
> Courtesy of Wikipedia:
> Lidar is an acronym of "light detection and ranging"
> or "laser imaging, detection, and ranging".
>
> Now, whether you should care about it, I cannot say.
>
> Here is an article about how Seeing AI is using this feature:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmspow
> eruser.com%2Fmicrosoft-seeing-ai-app-lidar-support-space-in-3d%2F&amp;
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> ed=0
>
> Here is an article of how it can help in navigating in unfamiliar areas:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n
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>
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A chip question
>
> What is Lidar, and why should I care about it?
>
> On 8/12/21, Kevin Minor <kmino...@outlook.com> wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I have a pair of gaming headphones that I connect to my iPhone with a 
>> lightning adaptor. I lost that adaptor, and decided to order one that 
>> had a
>> 3.5 mm jack on it, and a lightning jack to hook a cord so I could 
>> charge it and use the headphones at the same time. I connected the 
>> gaming headphones to the 3.5 mm jack to see how well it would work. I 
>> activated Siri on my phone, and spoke into my gaming mic. To my 
>> surprise, Siri came out of the speakers on my phone. I then tried to 
>> make a call on my iPhone, and instead of it coming through my 
>> headphones, it was routed to the ear speaker, which meant I couldn't 
>> hear it. I can't remember the brand of adaptor I got, but at least 
>> this one didn't route phone audio through it, and the gaming mic 
>> didn't work at all. I called up Apple and ordered that little 
>> lightning plug that I had, and all works as expected. I do have an 
>> adaptor with two female lightning plugs on it, so I can use my 
>> headphones and charge my phone at the same time.
>>
>> Just giving a heads up.
>>
>> Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.
>> Kevin and Jilly
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 2:22 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: A chip question
>>
>> Yes there are.
>>
>> I have one that uses the 3.5 MM earphone jack but they make one that 
>> uses the lightning jack.  It is a small rectangular box with a 
>> charging port for your charging cable, and another port for the 
>> earphones, then a short cable; maybe 3 inches, that you plug into the 
>> phones charging port.
>> Thefollowing one will work with your lightning earphones:
>>
>> Belkin Lightning Audio + Charge Rockstar Product Information Overview 
>> The Belkin Lightning Audio + Charge RockStar offers dual 
>> functionality for charging and listening to your iPhone or iPad. 
>> Whether you want to charge in the car, on the go, or at home, the 
>> adapter makes it possible to listen to Lightning Audio and power your 
>> iPhone, simultaneously.
>>
>> From Apple, It is $39.95
>> Belkin Lightning Audio + Charge Rockstar -
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>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> Of Johnna Simmons
>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 11:08 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: A chip question
>>
>> Hi Richard I seem to get a lot of good information from you on this list.
>> So, I am wondering if you can answer this question for me I have an 
>> iPhone
>> 12 mini and the battery does not hold very well and so I would like 
>> to hook an external battery to it. But I also like do use the Apple 
>> headphones instead of Bluetooth. Is there an adapter that I can plug 
>> into my phone that will allow me to charge it and listen buy headphones?
>> Thanks.
>> Johnna Simmons
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner 
>> <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> ?
>> I'm holding out to see if the iPhone 13 models offer Lidar on all 
>> their models instead of the most expensive ones only.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> Of Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 10:14 AM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: Re: A chip question
>>
>> Hi Kay,
>>
>> Only the iPHone 12 Pro and Max have LIDAR, not the mini. There aren't 
>> any
>> 2021 models yet, so we don't know which will have it. The 2020 SE 
>> does not.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Kay Malmquist 
>> <kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know if the 12 mini has the capabilities of Lidar, not 
>> sure of the spelling? Or the SE 2021?
>>
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
>>
>> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
>> Bob Proctor
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