Hello all,
I really like BSI for input on my iPhone. I do also like the features that 
MBraille has but the $40 price for full access to the app is a bit pricy. 
Greg Wocher

> On Aug 24, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> Whether BSI, M-Braille or Flicktype, any of these require you to understand 
> how they work and after that constant practice and not just for half an hour, 
> but for hours and hours. It's just like correct touch typing on a full-size 
> keyboard, some people can do 30 or 40 words a minute and others can do 100 or 
> more or, according to Wikipedia, 216 words a minute back in 1946 on an  IBM 
> electric typewriter by Stella Pajunas-Garnand in Chicago.
> Here is an interesting blog article from the "Das Keyboard" website:
>  
> The Fastest Typist in the World Wins the Ultimate Typing Championship
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: August 24, 2021 2:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>  
> Thanks a lot.  I will give it a try.  I really like the concept of BSI, I 
> just hope I will get the hang of this app.  When I was playing around with 
> BSI just trying out the alphabet in braille, one time I got it to work, and I 
> was surprised at how fast I could type some of the letters.
>  
> On 8/23/21, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> > there is not really callibration but you have a few layouts. It is
> > much like BSI but I find it a bit easier.
> > I think you can get the app for free and get used to it before having
> > to consider purchasing it.
> > There is a lot of settings to customize it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Richard
> > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> > -- Jane Wagner
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > website:  www.turner42.com
> > 
> > 
> > On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > That sounds very interesting.  I tried the BSI thing, but just
> > couldn't get the hang of it.  That sounds easier then flicktype.  I
> > tried that and it was confusing.  If I do get mbraille, I'll probably
> > have questions.  Having a braille keyboard come up when I need to send
> > a text message would be very neat if I can figure out how to use it.
> > Also, doing web searches would also be very nice.  Is there any
> > calibrating of fingers like in BSI?  Thanks.
> > 
> > On 8/23/21, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> > MBraille is an app for writing braille on the screen like the Apple
> > Braille Input, though it has far more features.  If you buy the full
> > version, it can be set as another keyboard; much like FlickType could
> > be an extra keyboard.
> > It has lots of what he calls "dot commands," so that by brailling the
> > braille period dots 2,5,6 followed by sms then a contact or a phone
> > number, you can send whatever you had written as a text message.
> > Or, dot mail  followed by a subject in quotes or just a contact or an
> > email address you can send a mail message, all from within the app.
> > Or of course, once the keyboard is up, you can switch to it and just
> > write in the body of a text or email.
> > Those are what I use the most, but you can also do web searches from
> > the app, add calendar events, and save notes to Dropbox and on, and on.
> > 
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.
> > apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fmbraille%2Fid639199558&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C26
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> > 
> > I'll start a new thread if this continues to not be about flicktype.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Richard
> > Software means never having to say you're finished
> > 
> > Web site:
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
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> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
> > Joshua Hendrickson
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 1:38 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
> > 
> > Richard, what is m-braille?
> > 
> > On 8/23/21, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Richard I completely agree with you.  It took me years to see that.  I
> > used Android for years.  Will Google ever catch up?  Doubtful.  Could
> > they yes if Apple took  years off and Google actually did something.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
> > Richard Turner
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 11:26 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Let us not lose sight of the fact they are actually putting more and
> > more into accessibility.  It may not be your accessibility, but over
> > all, they are way out in front in this area.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > Software means never having to say you're finished
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
> > Behalf Of Devin Prater
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 8:19 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It's definitely not the end of the world, but I hope we won't continue
> > having this type of problem, but something tells me we will as Apple's
> > success grows and their App Store team has more and more they have to
> > do and look out for.
> > 
> > 
> > Devin Prater
> > 
> > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
> > 
> > gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:06 AM Richard Turner
> > <richardturne...@outlook.com <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> >
> > wrote:
> > 
> > I  Very much doubt the millions of customers it would take to switch
> > to the "somewhat dark side, grin" will do so, which is what it would
> > take to impact Apple's wallet.  A few people switching to Android
> > certainly won't.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I also doubt Flicktype will see the light of day again, which is too
> > bad, but not the end of the world.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > Software means never having to say you're finished
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
> > Behalf Of Devin Prater
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 7:38 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I voted with my wallet and went with Android. Sure, it's got its rough
> > edges, but at least I control what is on my phone, what can go on my
> > phone, what app stores are on my phone, and can even play the video
> > games I'm good at, on my phone. Its not perfect as I said, but I have
> > control, and Apple, or Google for that matter, cannot take it away. I
> > think the only way Apple will change so drastically is if they notice
> > a decrease in money. Their App Store is very dear to them as a
> > money-making ability, so I doubt a few people complaining about a
> > specialized app will move them. After all, thousands of people
> > complaining about CSAM hasn't, and thousands complaining about
> > fortnight hasn't either. If it does, though, that's great. But if not,
> > prepare to vote with your money. Android isn't as dark a side as you
> > think.
> > :)
> > 
> > 
> > Devin Prater
> > 
> > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
> > 
> > gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:35 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
> > <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:
> > 
> > Jonathan Mosen is urging as many of us as possible to email Apple's
> > Phil Schiller schil...@apple.com <mailto:schil...@apple.com>  to urge
> > him to intervene personally to sort out the problems leading to the
> > developer of FlickType withdrawing his app after his updates were
> > rejected for mystifying reasons.
> > Regards
> > Harry
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