Kelly how much bigger is the battery on the 13 pro max compaired to the SE2?

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 10:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

iPhones that need to use some form of 3G coverage are the 5S and earlier. The 
iPhone 6 and later can stay on carrier networks for the foreseeable future.

I have an iPhone 7 and plan to upgrade to the 13. The big reason is that I want 
a Mini and the iPhone 13 will be the last mini. Apple does a lot better with 
hardware after the first generation, which is why I sat out the 12 Mini. If I 
were not eager for a smaller sized phone, I would just replace the battery. 
With the 13, I will get a faster processor and significantly improved 5g as 
well as double the storage for the same price. Battery life is another 
consideration.  The new iPhone 13 mini has a battery life that is 38 percent 
longer than the iPhone 7, 8 or SE second generation. The regular iPhone 13 has 
a battery life that is 89 percent more than the 7, 8 or SE-2.

While Apple is treading water with the iPhone 13, five years of innovation will 
feel like I am entering a new era.

Kelly





On 9/14/21, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation.  That is new to me.
> I will look into that for future reference.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of 
> us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.
>
> Richard.  The extended apple care is through apple not my carier which 
> is Verizon.  What happened was when my apple care expired on June 7 of 
> this year.  I had paid $200 for the past 2 years.  After it expired, I 
> went to settings under my name and under apple care, a message came 
> up.  It said that I had 30 days from when my apple care expired to pay 
> for apple care if I wanted.  There were different options, and I chose 
> the $10 per month option.  I can cancel at any time, however, I need 
> to be aware, that if I do cancel that is it, and I wouldn't have apple 
> care any more.  I'll pay the
> $10 per now, but if I get a new iPhone, I could either continue to pay 
> for the apple care on my olde iPhone, or stop.
>
> On 9/14/21, Diane Giannetti <diane1lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am sorry if I imply that people were afraid,J just in case Those 
>> that may be, was trying to say not to be. Yes, I told him that 
>> everyone has a right to their own opinions and I’m not trying to 
>> persuade one way or the other.
>> Just expressing mine. Sorry if there was confusion about that
>>
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>
>>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> I'm not afraid of anything. I am expressing a preference.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Diane Giannetti
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those 
>>> of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i 
>>> phone 8.
>>>
>>> Let’s try this again. I sent it out before I got a chance to correct it.
>>> Those who use the home button really do not need to be afraid of 
>>> switching over and not have the home button. It’s just a matter of 
>>> sliding up or down to get what you need to get to and it has the 
>>> haptics so you will know where you’re at. It’s not bad at all. It isn’t.
>>>
>>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>>
>>>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Esther Levegnale 
>>>> <elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I still am using my 7+ and love it.  I know it's a larger phone, 
>>>> but I like the home button and the phone's sound.
>>>>
>>>> Esther
>>>>
>>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Muy iPhone 8 works just fine and does what i need it to do.  I 
>>>>> like the size, and I like the home button. It fits perfectly into 
>>>>> a zipper pouch with my Aftershokz headset. i wouldn't want 
>>>>> anything larger.  If I was to get another phone, it would be the SE2020.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Hendrickson"
>>>>> <louv...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:17 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
>>>>> those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running 
>>>>> the i phone 8.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month for apple 
>>>>> care, so when I need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing.  I 
>>>>> have had my iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  I so regret not 
>>>>> getting an iPhone 11 pro with 512 gigs of storage when I had the 
>>>>> chance.  I will wait for the iPhone 14.  It will give me a chance 
>>>>> to keep saving up money so I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 
>>>>> outright with no contract to worry about.  I'd have plenty of 
>>>>> space on my 256 gig iPhone 8, if I hadn't filled it up with audio books.
>>>>> If only NLS would let you sync your bard books from one phone to 
>>>>> another via iCloud.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Yeah Carolyn,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm kind of in the same mindset,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it doesn't matter what you do today,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We all know that there will be something better out tomorrow,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But hey,
>>>>>> Face and touch id under screen would be nice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Carolyn
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:42 am
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
>>>>>> those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running 
>>>>>> the i phone 8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I kind of want to replace my 11, but hearing that the 14 could 
>>>>>> offer the choice of touch or facial ID makes me a little more 
>>>>>> patient. Too, by then, I will be moved, and it will be easier for 
>>>>>> my daughter-in-love to take me to phone stores, where I might 
>>>>>> change back to Verizon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:13 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
>>>>>> those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running 
>>>>>> the i phone 8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are such a retail man,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sell sell sell,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I have to admit,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like a new phone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don’t need a new phone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I’ve got an 11 pro max,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I love spending money!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I had the need I’d love to check out your stores stock to see 
>>>>>> what would be useful here in NZ,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But my camping days seem to be over and we don’t get the cold 
>>>>>> temps you guys get
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:51 am
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
>>>>>> those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running 
>>>>>> the i phone 8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I totally think I t's fine for people to hold on to older phones, 
>>>>>> but at the same time I am not a big advocate for spending money 
>>>>>> on phones like the iPhone 6 or even the 7 or 8. Instead of 
>>>>>> spending
>>>>>> $79 for a new battery you could have probably sold it for $79 and 
>>>>>> used the $160 towards a newer phone which supports the latest 
>>>>>> version of iOS. Just my opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Michael Irons
>>>>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 2:35 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
>>>>>> those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running 
>>>>>> the i phone 8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just got a new battery for my iPhone six. I ended up paying $79 
>>>>>> for the new battery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would check the issue of 3G going away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does your phone support 4G?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so, you probably are fine sitting tight with what you have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it only supports 3G, then check with your carrier as to when 
>>>>>> 3G support will stop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise, only upgrade when there are new features you want, or 
>>>>>> because of the battery life, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is around $50 US to get a new battery in most iPhones…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
>>>>>> touch with it.” – Jane Wagner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Behalf Of Mich Verrier
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:13 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: now that the apple event is finnished what about those 
>>>>>> of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i 
>>>>>> phone 8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all. I just am wondering I am running the I phone 8 and now 
>>>>>> that the apple event is over what about those of us who are 
>>>>>> running older phones like that? I have been thinking of upgrading 
>>>>>> for a while but am not shure witch phone I should upgrade to?
>>>>>> Since beaing that I am blind I don’t really cair that much about 
>>>>>> the camra and stuff except when it comes to doing things like ocr 
>>>>>> and stuff I just was wondering the groups thoughts? My phone is 
>>>>>> still running good and vo is still working as it should I just 
>>>>>> was wondering about the groups thoughts. Btw I am in Ontario 
>>>>>> Canada if that helps so some of the things like the us carriers 
>>>>>> wouldn’t really apply to my situation. I got this phone back in 
>>>>>> 2019 and we are now in 2021. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard 
>>>>>> Ontario Canada.
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>>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
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>>>>>> please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than 
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
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>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
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>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
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