Me too! I was realY looking forward especially to trying out the "Focus" feature! but yes I find too the bugs might interfeer with my iPhone's daily use/effectiveness, thus I tino plan to wait at least for the next update before taking the plunge.
Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel > El 19 sep 2021, a la(s) 7:22 p.m., Dawn Bilpuch <dbilpuc...@gmail.com> > escribió: > > > Yeah. I agree it does look bad. A lot of the bugs I read about when I seen > this seem to affect stuff I use daily if not regularly. Such as folders, the > sharesheet bug, and apps not being announced in the app switcher. > > I don't think I'll update tomorrow either. I wish I could, because some of > the features I'm really looking forward to. But, to me, for my use case, it's > not worth the risk. > I think I'll wait at least a couple versions in before updating, and, I'll be > watching AppleVis VERY CLOSELY. > > I realize that the decision is personal. And that there's many many different > use cases and configurations. But, in my eyes, if you use folders, > sharesheet, or anything else that's affected by these bugs, then I wouldn't > consider updating. > >>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Rafał Marzec <bluewings1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> I must say that it looks really bad >> Probably I will not upgrade till they will fix basic problems >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: The AppleVis Editorial Team <newslet...@applevis.com> >>> Date: 18 September 2021 at 8:57:43 am BST >>> To: bluewings1...@gmail.com >>> Subject: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and >>> Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users >>> Reply-To: The AppleVis Editorial Team <newslet...@applevis.com> >>> >>> >>> View in browser >>> >>> The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for >>> Blind and Low Vision Users >>> >>> iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 will be released to the public on Monday 20 September, >>> 2021. As is our tradition, we have posted to the AppleVis website a list of >>> VoiceOver, low vision, and braille bugs which we believe will be introduced >>> in these releases; as well as details of the pre-existing bugs which we >>> believe to be resolved. >>> >>> If you have already read our post to AppleVis, there will be nothing new >>> for you in this email, so we apologise for repeating ourselves and wish you >>> a great weekend. However, we know that many in our community won’t yet have >>> seen the post, so decided to mail it to our newsletter subscribers - this >>> should hopefully ensure that as many people as possible are aware of what >>> to expect when the public releases of iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 become available >>> on Monday. >>> >>> As is our routine practice, each new bug has been given a severity rating; >>> these ratings are based upon what we believe to be the implications for >>> accessing and using features and functionality and the level of impact on >>> the overall user experience, as well as whether or not there is an >>> effective workaround for the issue. However, as these ratings are >>> subjective, it is very possible that they may not reflect your own opinion >>> or use case. >>> >>> As we always stress, we can make no claims on the completeness or accuracy >>> of our testing. We have only a small team of testers, and it is simply >>> impossible for us to test all devices, configurations, applications, and >>> use cases; this is even more important to note now as Apple’s ecosystem >>> continues to expand and the number of possible device configurations >>> increases. Some of the bugs listed below will be specific to a certain >>> device, configuration or use case. Consequently, it is entirely likely that >>> you will not encounter all of what we list; and it is also probable that >>> you will encounter bugs or regressions that we did not identify during our >>> testing. >>> >>> We strongly recommend that you read through this email and all of the >>> replies to our post on AppleVis before updating—as this will allow you to >>> make an informed decision on whether to install iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 at the >>> current time or to wait for a future release. >>> >>> To help us ensure that the information is as complete and accurate as >>> possible, we would appreciate feedback from those who have installed iOS 15 >>> or iPadOS 15 —both to confirm whether they are encountering the same >>> problems (or have found workarounds), as well as to let us know of any >>> additional issues that are not on this list. Of course, it’s even more >>> important that you let Apple know of any additional bugs that you find >>> (they already know about the ones currently listed here and are actively >>> working on resolving them). This post explains why you should report bugs >>> directly to Apple, as well as the best ways to do so. >>> >>> With all of the preamble out of the way, here are the new bugs for blind >>> and low vision users which we believe to be present in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15: >>> >>> Serious Bugs >>> >>> Apple Wallet will crash if you attempt to use any card, ticket, or pass >>> other than the first one listed. As a workaround, our experience suggests >>> that whilst on this screen you should be able to use “Move up” from the >>> VoiceOver rotor on the desired card, ticket or pass to temporarily move it >>> to the top of the list. Unfortunately, in our own testing, this process >>> hasn’t always behaved as expected or been reliable. >>> The Wallet app crashes if you use the swipe gesture to navigate through >>> cards, tickets, and passes listed on the main window of the app. As a >>> workaround, our experience suggests that you can still explore the screen >>> by touch and then activate the desired card. >>> The time picker used when creating or editing a scheduled Screen time >>> downtime or app limit is not accessible with VoiceOver. Specifically, if >>> you navigate to Settings > Screen Time > Downtime and enable “Scheduled”, >>> the picker used to set the start and end times is not accessible, as is the >>> picker used with setting app limits. >>> The Apple One subscription screen is not accessible with VoiceOver. >>> Specifically, if you do not currently subscribe to Apple One and go to your >>> Subscriptions screen through the App Store or Settings app, and then select >>> the button to view the Apple One bundle options, the text on the page is >>> not read by VoiceOver and most of the UI elements are either unlabelled or >>> have meaningless labels. >>> Moderate Bugs >>> >>> VoiceOver may not speak the names of apps when moving focus through the App >>> Switcher. This issue has only been experienced by one of our team, but we >>> are aware of others reporting the same behavior. Their experience is that >>> VoiceOver will correctly speak the first 2–3 app names as you swipe left to >>> move focus away from the most recently used app, but will then stop >>> announcing app names beyond this point. >>> When composing a lengthy email with the Apple Mail app using a braille >>> display, random words will be inserted in the incorrect place. >>> It is not possible to edit existing alarms in the native Clock app when >>> VoiceOver is enabled. For now, the simplest workaround is to use the >>> VoiceOver rotor’s Action menu to delete the alarm, and then recreate it >>> with the desired configuration. >>> When attempting to add an existing photo to a message in the Messages app, >>> the grid of available photos cannot be located or navigated by swiping, >>> only by touch. Specifically, after double tapping on the button for the >>> Photos app on the message composition window, a grid of available photos is >>> displayed on the bottom part of the screen. This cannot be located by >>> swiping. You can, however, locate by touch each photo in the grid, but >>> having located one by touch you cannot then swipe to the next or previous >>> photo. >>> It can be difficult to access the multi-tasking controls on iPad with >>> VoiceOver after opening the menu. Specifically, the multitasking controls >>> button is accessed in the status bar. However once selected, VoiceOver does >>> not indicate that the menu is open, and you cannot simply swipe to enter >>> the open menu. Instead you need to move off the status bar, and return to >>> it to find the controls. >>> The window which shows you the available hardware keyboard commands on iPad >>> does not work correctly with VoiceOver. Specifically, you can press and >>> hold the Command key or the Globe key + M to bring up a window displaying >>> all of the currently available keyboard commands. This window is arranged >>> into columns, with headings such as System and Multitasking. While >>> VoiceOver does read all elements in the window, it does not follow this >>> column or table structure and the buttons don’t have a clear affect. >>> VoiceOver does not announce the selection status when adding people or apps >>> to the allowed notifications list of a Focus mode. >>> When the Safari toolbar is collapsed to the bottom of the screen, VoiceOver >>> finds UI elements which are not visually present and consequently do not >>> behave as expected. Specifically, when you have Safari configured so that >>> the address bar and toolbar are located at the bottom of the screen, you >>> can use the VoiceOver rotor to ‘collapse’ this so that only the address bar >>> is visually displayed. However, when swiping, VoiceOver will locate the >>> controls such as ‘Tabs’ and ‘Share’ which are located on the now visually >>> hidden toolbar. When double tapping on one of these ‘ghost’ buttons, >>> instead of performing the expected function, the toolbar is expanded. >>> When using drag and drop to rearrange the position of a shortcut in the >>> Shortcuts app, VoiceOver does not provide meaningful feedback whilst >>> dragging regarding where the shortcut will be placed when dropped. >>> Specifically, when in a folder of shortcuts and dragging a shortcut to a >>> different position, as the shortcut is dragged VoiceOver announces feedback >>> of its current position in the form of “Before Null” and “After Null”, >>> where “Null’ should be the name of a shortcut. >>> Minor Bugs >>> >>> When viewing an interactive notification from the Mail app, the context >>> menu items “Delete” and “Mark Read” may on occasions not function when >>> located by swiping. In these cases, performing a 3-finger swipe up on the >>> screen appears to ‘drag’ these items in to view, which makes them work as >>> expected.. >>> After using “More” from the VoiceOver rotor’s Action menu on a >>> notification, VoiceOver users can locate when swiping UI elements which are >>> not present visually on screen and do not behave as expected. Typically, >>> this will be other UI elements which are on the Lock Screen or Notification >>> Center such as notifications or playback controls. When double tapping on >>> one of these ‘ghost’ UI elements, instead of performing the expected >>> behavior, the interactive view of the selected notification will be >>> dismissed. >>> When selecting the second app for a split screen setup on iPad, VoiceOver >>> does not tell you if an app you’re selecting does not in fact support >>> multi-tasking. Specifically, after selecting the split screen option in the >>> multi-tasking menu, you are returned to your Home Screen to select the app >>> you want to share the screen with. Some apps are not supported, and if >>> selected will simply open in full screen, but VoiceOver gives no indication >>> of which apps are and are not supported. >>> Pressing and briefly holding the Globe key on a hardware keyboard to bring >>> up the list of keyboard commands does not work properly when VoiceOver is >>> enabled. Specifically, the Globe key, or FN on some keyboards, is now used >>> as a modifier key. Pressing it while VoiceOver is disabled brings up a list >>> of available keyboard commands. With VoiceOver enabled, it only briefly >>> pops up and disappears again. >>> When using a hardware keyboard with an iPad, pressing Globe/FN + Control + >>> Option activates the keyboard hints window, which is conflicting with the >>> VoiceOver command to go to the first or last item when combined with the >>> left or right arrow key. Specifically, as well as pressing and holding >>> Command, or Pressing Globe + M to bring up the keyboard commands window, >>> pressing Globe + Control + option does so too. Pressing these keys combined >>> with the left and right arrow keys should take VoiceOver to the first or >>> last item, and so the two commands are in conflict. Making sure to press >>> down Control + Option first appears to help. >>> When selecting shortcuts in a folder in the Shortcuts app, VoiceOver does >>> not speak the selection status of shortcuts. Specifically, when you have >>> activated Edit mode and chosen “Select Shortcuts” from the context menu, >>> VoiceOver will not announce when a shortcut has already been selected when >>> you place focus on to it. >>> The button used to clear the Safari address bar is labelled “Close” rather >>> than “Clear Text”. >>> On the Power Off / Medical ID / Emergency Call screen, VoiceOver finds and >>> speaks erroneous elements such as the word “Call” and the phrase >>> “location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.right iPhone Findable After Power Off >>> Forward” if invoked when you have an open app in the foreground. >>> On the Weather app’s small widget, the high and low temperature information >>> is spoken twice by VoiceOver. What’s announced will be something similar >>> to: “Check The Weather Widget LocationName, ,, 18°, , High of 19°, Low of >>> 12°, High of 19°, Low of 12°.” >>> On the Weather app’s small widget, the graphic that visually indicates to >>> sighted users the current weather conditions is not recognised or announced >>> by VoiceOver. >>> On iPod touch only, the option to show or hide Reader view is missing from >>> the VoiceOver rotor’s Action menu in Safari. >>> Additionally, we are aware of three issues that effect users of USB HID >>> braille displays. The USB HID industry standard was announced in May 2018 >>> with Apple being involved in its drafting, but Apple platforms may not yet >>> officially support the standard. >>> >>> After connecting a supported USB HID braille display via USB and then >>> locking the screen, braille input and output stops. >>> If a HID-compatible braille display is connected over USB and has had >>> custom commands added through Bluetooth, the custom commands do not work >>> with USB. >>> After connecting a USB HID-compatible braille display, there are no options >>> or acknowledgements within the braille menu that this device is connected. >>> Other Reported Bugs >>> >>> The following bugs have not been encountered by any of our team, but we are >>> aware of them being experienced by others: >>> >>> VoiceOver may not speak the labels of all Actions available on the >>> system-wide share sheet. We understand that when this occurs, VoiceOver >>> will simply announce “activity” for the share sheet action rather than its >>> title. >>> If you encounter any additional VoiceOver, braille, or low vision bugs in >>> iOS 15 or iPadOS 15, please let others know by posting a reply to our post >>> on AppleVis. When doing so, please provide as much information as possible >>> so that others know exactly what to expect; when and where the problem >>> occurs; and any possible workarounds you have found. >>> >>> Accessibility Improvements in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 >>> >>> Our testing suggests that the following pre-existing accessibility bugs >>> have been resolved or significantly addressed in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15: >>> >>> Using Full Keyboard Access in conjunction with VoiceOver no longer causes >>> issues with VoiceOver focus. >>> When editing text that contains line breaks using a braille display, the >>> cursor which is represented by dots 7 and 8 will no longer occasionally >>> disappear after a cursor routing button is pressed. >>> The Misspelled Words rotor option now appears to work consistently and as >>> expected in the Notes and Mail apps. >>> On the Lock Screen and Notification Center, VoiceOver once again Speaks the >>> Total Duration Time That’s Visually Present on the Playback Control >>> Timeline Slider. >>> If using VoiceOver, it is now possible from the Account settings page of >>> the Music app to revoke access to your account for apps or services which >>> currently have access. >>> The Next-Hour Precipitation Data in the Native Weather App is Now >>> Accessible with VoiceOver. >>> On the native Weather widget, VoiceOver no longer speaks the word “degrees” >>> twice. >>> VoiceOver now appears to be consistent in announcing the time when waking >>> your device. >>> VoiceOver now appears to be consistent in announcing the number of any >>> notifications when waking your device. >>> If you encounter any additional fixes or improvements during your own use >>> of iOS 15 or iPadOS 15, please let us know by posting a reply to our post >>> on AppleVis. >>> >>> Changes in Functionality or Behavior >>> >>> As is common with major operating system updates, Apple has made some >>> changes in functionality or behaviour in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15. As sometimes >>> these types of changes may not be discovered by some or can reasonably be >>> mistaken as bugs, below are a list of the notable changes we are currently >>> aware of: >>> >>> One change in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 that we understand is by design rather >>> than being a bug, is that VoiceOver will announce when a Focus mode is >>> automatically enabled or disabled (for example at a scheduled time). This >>> occurs even if you have speak notifications disabled and your device is >>> asleep. If, like us, you believe that this is not the preferred or expected >>> behavior, we would encourage you to email Apple’s Accessibility Team and >>> ask that they reconsider the current implementation. >>> A new feature on iPad is Quick Notes. Regardless of what you’re doing on >>> your iPad, you can access an existing note or a new note quickly via a >>> number of methods - using an Apple Pencil or hardware keyboard, via the >>> Control Center, or by mimicking the move of the Apple Pencil by swiping up >>> from the bottom right corner. Currently, the last of these does not work >>> with VoiceOver, but VoiceOver users can assign the “Quick Note” action to >>> any Touch Gesture they prefer from Settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > >>> Commands > Touch Gestures. >>> A nice addition to Safari is that VoiceOver users can now perform a >>> 3-finger swipe down on the top part of a webpage to perform a page refresh. >>> If you know of other changes which you believe should be included in this >>> list, please let us know by posting a comment to our post on AppleVis. >>> >>> In Closing >>> >>> We have been compiling these lists of new bugs for every major iOS release >>> since iOS 7. In our opinion, although iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 introduce a >>> number of new bugs for VoiceOver and braille users, they should be stable >>> and usable updates for most use cases. One exception would be if you >>> frequently use Apple Wallet with a selection of cards; tickets; and passes, >>> in which case you may wish to delay updating. >>> >>> However, there are certain to be more issues discovered and shared; so, if >>> you haven’t already upgraded, we would strongly recommend that you take a >>> few moments to read through all replies to our post on AppleVis before >>> doing so. You may also want to consider that in recent years Apple has >>> typically fixed a significant number of VoiceOver and braille bugs in the >>> first couple of updates to follow major iOS and iPadOs releases. >>> >>> When posting in the comments, we ask that you please keep discussion >>> on-topic and related specifically to accessibility bugs introduced or >>> resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15. 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