Socialized medicine? We don’t have that in the US. Our insurance companies determine need for hospitalization & length of stay in the hospital as well as drug choices based on what they are willing to cover. Nothing to do with socialized medicine.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived yes! You need to be a good self advocate and have a doctor who will cooperate. I know someone who even though he is on insulin, had to fight with Kaiser for a year before they would provide it for him. These are the consequences of socialized medicine where bean counters can overrule doctors and patients. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: 'Nicki Keck' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived The doctor got it for my husband before he got on insulin. He wanted to monitor it before the insulin started so we would know how the sugars were running and how much insulin to prescribe. He had to talk to the insurance person to finally get it approved. It's not easy to get it if you are not on insulin. It's possible but not easy. I think part of the reason we got it for my husband is because it was clear he was going to be going on insulin. We monitored it, went to the doctor, showed him the app, which he was absolutely fascinated with, by the way, and now he is on the insulin so we shouldn't have trouble keeping it covered. We did give them the argument of blindness and difficulty monitoring sugars with conventional meters, but even that argument didn't work right away. Nicki On Sep 25, 2021, at 12:25 PM, Robert stigile <rnstechnol...@gmail.com <mailto:rnstechnol...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi, it’s Robert. So, you need to have your doctor tell them that you do not need insulin but in order to keep your blood sugars in tight control you need to freestyle libre patches. Your doctor will need to submit reports every three months to let them know that you are still not using insulin but that your blood sugars are in tighter control by using the free style libre patch. Also, your doctor needs to submit a report stating that due to your blindness you’re not able to test using a meter as well due to not getting enough blood on the strips. That is what my doctor has told Abbott and they are fine with that. You just have to have your doctor keep pushing it. Good luck! Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter 818-381-9568 On Sep 25, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com <mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi Bob; I am having a terrible time getting the freestyle libre. They keep telling me that I need to be on insulin. Three doctors have tried to get this for me through my medical plan and Medicare part B to no success. Please help? Thank you Anthony Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!! On Sep 25, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Robert stigile <rnstechnol...@gmail.com <mailto:rnstechnol...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi all, First, no you do not need to be on insulin do use the Libre, as I am not using insulin and I have the libre sensors. My doctor was able to get the Libre for me because I said I wanted to have better control of my diabetes and I can’t do that because it’s difficult to get blood test since I can’t see it all and it’s hard to get enough blood on the strip using a meter. Secondly when you are using the app on iPhone to check your readings with the Libre patch you need to put the top of the phone against the patch and then it will scan it and give you your readings. Again, you need to touch the top of the foam to the patch. I hope this helps. Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter 818-381-9568 On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:57 AM, Lynn White <lynnwhite...@gmail.com <mailto:lynnwhite...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi Linda, My understanding is that you have to be on insulin. But to be safe, I would either check with the insurance company or your doctor. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Lynda Ingraham <lynda.ingra...@gmail.com <mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com> > wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Vivian Conger <blazie.g...@gmail.com <mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com> > wrote: Thanks Everyone, Well I’m still not able to scan the sensor with my phone and think that yes I may have to wait until I apply a new sensor and then use my Libre 2 app to activate it. I even tried having the reader more than 20 feet away from me and my phone thinking the phone might work if the reader was out-of-range. Didn’t make a difference. 😉 The sensor is for 14 days and the screen specifically says the reader is Libre 2. Using iPhone SE 2020 and IOS 14.8. So for now I will use the reader to scan the sensor and have Voice Dream Scanner read what the display shows. Looking forward to using my phone as the alerts on the reader are not very loud. Again thanks everyone for all the comments and suggestions. Vivian and Sallie From: 'NickiKeck' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:45 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived As others have said, you don’t need the reader. I am not diabetic, but my husband is, and he is totally blind and uses it every day with just the app. I have a feeling that since you activated the sensor with the reader, that you may not be able to use this particular sensor with the app, but after this 14-day sensor is finished, just apply the new sensor and use the app to scan it. Also, as others have said, after you activate it, you will need to wait an hour. The app will notify you when your hour is over and prompt you to scan for a reading. We have never had a reader with my husband’s unit, as I talked with a coworker and he told me not to get it, as the app is the most accessible way to use the Libre. We told the doctor that we didn’t want or need the reader. Hope this is helpful. On Sep 24, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Joney Owen <talk2o...@gmail.com <mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com> > wrote: The only thing I can suggest is that you wait and install the next sensor with your phone. I know that they said you could do the other, but I don’t recall how it was done. I used libre freestyle for quite a while. I’ve now switched over to the Libre 2. Which has the alarm sensors. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com <mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi Vivian, You didn’t need the reader at all. I don’t know how you might get the device to change from the reader to the app on your phone. I have used the libre with my phone, but 10 R. I’m not diabetic, so I only use the continuous glucose monitor every so often, just to keep tabs on things. It works real well, at least it did the last time I used it. But as I say, I do not know if it is possible to switch your sensor over to the phone from the reader. Just don’t use the reader again. It was an unnecessary expense that they should not have sold you. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Vivian Conger <blazie.g...@gmail.com <mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi All, I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with the nurse yesterday. She apologized that it didn’t talk. I told her that it does now that there is an app for the iPhone. She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor. After I got home, I installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed on a different device. I received an email stating that this could be done but have not figured out how to do it yet. I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD Scanner and it was perfect. I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader. Does anyone have any suggestions? Many thanks for assistance. Vivian and Sallie -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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