Has anyone played with the group nav yet?  I haven't landed long enough to 
do so.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Malcolm Parfitt
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 9:16 AM
  Subject: Re: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]


  Here’s what the online iPhone user guide has to say:


  Use flat or grouped navigationGo to Settings  > Accessibility > VoiceOver 
 > Navigation Style, then choose one of the following:

    a.. Flat: VoiceOver moves sequentially through each item on the screen 
when you use the move next and previous commands.

    b.. Grouped: VoiceOver moves through items and groups of items on the 
screen. To move into a group, use a two-finger swipe right. To move out of a 
group, use a two-finger swipe left.





  I’m none the wiser not having played around with this feature yet.


  Malcolm Parfitt


    On 24 Sep 2021, at 15:10, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
wrote:


    There is an option in the VoiceOver Rotor settings to add Navigation 
Style to the Rotor.
    Once there, when you turn the Rotor to Navigation style, you have two 
options; flat, or grouped.
    So far, I am clueless what it should do.
    If Apple actually made a reasonably accessible user guide, it would be 
easier.
    I searched for Navigation style in the iPhone User Guide in Apple's 
Books app, found it, but then trying to read it with VoiceOver proved crazy 
making with the focus jumping.
    I need to sit down with my braille display and go through it but have 
not had time.




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    -----Original Message-----
    From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
    Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 6:45 AM
    To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

    I never heard of group navigation until Anna's post. What is it? Do you 
find it in Settings or in an open app?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
    Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:33 PM
    To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

    I tried group navigation for a few weeks and just couldn't get to the 
point where it was making me more efficient. I'm wondering how people find 
it, and for those who find it useful, do you have any tips for the rest of 
us?

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
    Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 9:28 PM
    To: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
    Subject: Re: Weather.

    Hi,

    You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to move 
through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to a 
group, and flick right with two fingers to see the information in that 
group.

    Best,
    Anna



      On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



      Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker.



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      From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Star Gazer

      Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM

      To: viphone@googlegroups.com

      Subject: Re: Weather.



      Yes you have to go line by lne



      Sent from my iPhone



        On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



        I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and 
barometric pressure?



        -----Original Message-----

        From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Star Gazer

        Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM

        To: viphone@googlegroups.com

        Subject: RE: Weather.



        It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by 
hour







        From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
Of Carolyn

        Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM

        To: viphone@googlegroups.com

        Subject: Weather.







        I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since 
yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had. I asked Siri 
how much in the past 24 hours, and she said she could not tell me things 
from the past,yet she could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when he 
died – you think that is just happening right now? LOL!







        My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and barometric 
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