I think touch id and face id will co exist on a phone. Apple will make
it happen.

On 10/4/21, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> Yeah
>
> I saw this a week or so back,
>
> I was surprised that they came out with it so soon after the 13 release.
>
> I'm still more interested in the folding iphone than the 14 or 15
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2021 7:18 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
>
> I wouldn't say this although I just read an article which summarized some of
> the recently leaked rumours about the iPhone 14 by John Prosser and Ming-Chi
> Kuo who have a record of accurately predicting a lot of future features and
> there is no word about touch Id until the iPhone 15.
> The main thing with the iPhone 14 is a very different design which means no
> more camera bump because the phone would be slightly thicker, there would be
> no more notch in front and a Titanium frame with glass front and back and of
> course the new 48 Megapixel camera which is 4 times the pixels of even the
> iPhone 13 Pro camera. Here is one article with what we can look forward to
> over the next 3 years:
>
> Top Apple insider leaks first iPhone 15 details and foldable iPhone release
> timing
>
> The great thing about iPhone rumors is that they never end. Case in point:
> we’re not even a week removed from Apple introducing the iPhone 13 and we’re
> already starting to see rumors surrounding the iPhone 14 and iPhone 15. Just
> last week, for example, noted leaker Jon Prosser revealed that Face ID
> sensors on the iPhone 14 will be located below the display. Additionally,
> Prosser says there will be a punch-hole selfie camera.
> Prosser has something of a hit-and-miss track record with respect to Apple
> rumors. With that in mind, it’s probably wise to take the report with a
> grain of salt. Ming-Chi Kuo, however, is without question the top Apple
> analyst working today. Kuo typically can glean information about Apple’s
> product roadmap years in advance. With that said, Kuo recently issued a
> doozy of an investor report with details surrounding the iPhone 15 and the
> mythical foldable iPhone.
>
> iPhone 15 features
> Apple’s iPhone 15 is admittedly two years away, but it’s no secret that
> Apple prepares its feature-set years ahead of time. To that end, Kuo — via
> AppleInsider — writes that the iPhone 15 will feature a Touch ID sensor
> underneath the display. We’ve seen several credible reports over the past
> few months pointing to Apple’s interest in bringing back Touch ID. In fact,
> Apple has filed several patents pertaining to under-display fingerprint
> sensor technologies. There’s also a chance Apple will add a Touch ID sensor
> to the iPhone 15 power button.
> Assuming that an iPhone with Touch ID is in the pipeline, it remains to be
> seen if Apple plans to eliminate Face ID or have the two authentication
> schemes coexist.
>
> Foldable iPhone
> Beyond the 2023 iPhone 15, Kuo writes that a foldable iPhone will arrive in
> 2024. That means we can likely look forward to an iPhone Fold release date
> in September 2024, if Kuo is correct. We’ve seen several reports pointing to
> Apple’s interest in a foldable iPhone in recent years. The success Samsung
> has had with their foldable smartphones demonstrates that there is a market
> for such a device. According to Kuo, a foldable iPhone will likely feature
> an 8-inch display with a “3,200 x 1,800-pixel resolution.”
> A few months ago, Prosser leaked that Apple’s foldable iPhone will boast
> “two separate display panels on a hinge” and “round, stainless steel edges.”
> Prosser’s leak describes an iPhone similar in design aesthetic to the iPhone
> 11, but that may have changed given the new flatter-edge design of the
> iPhone 12. Prosser also said that the foldable iPhone will not include a
> notch. Instead,  it will have a “tiny forehead” right above the display to
> house Face ID and other sensors.
> “The memes are funny,” Prosser says, “but it doesn’t look like they just
> stuck two phones together. Even though they’re two separate panels, when the
> displays are extended, it looks fairly continuous and seamless.”
> Kuo says that Apple has experienced a few technical hurdles with both the
> iPhone 15 and the foldable iPhone.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Ed
> Worrell
> Sent: October 4, 2021 7:22 AM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
>
> I really don’t think Apple is going to utilize Touch ID in the iPhones going
> forward. Face ID works beautifully and it gets better with every release.
>
> Apple keeps updating patents for Touch ID which means they’re actively
> working on it, but this also means if they keep updating the patents they
> haven’t found the technology to work up to their standards.
>
> Just my two cents on the topic.
>
> Ed
>
>
>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> This was mentioned in a mac rumours release
>>
>> They believe the under screen touch id will be in the 2023 release of
>> the iPhone and a folding iPhone in 2024
>>
>> Me,
>> Don't care
>> I just know it will get here when it gets here.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 5:13 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
>>
>> Why are you so sure the iPhone 14 won't have under-glass Touch Id or
>> incorporate a Touch Id side button??
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: September 23, 2021 7:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
>>
>> Links worked fine. My comment was for those holding their breath for the
>> iPhone 14. Their beloved fingerprint reader will not be happening.
>> For those of us who crave small phones, jump on the iPhone 13 before it
>> goes away.  It’s double the storage of last year’s 12 for the same price.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>> On 9/23/21, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
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>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 4:21 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
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