No change, you always had to flick left if focus was not on the Power Off 
button.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Thanks Sieghard,
Those were written based on bad information before I got a phone without a home 
button and obviously needed editing.
I discovered two things just now though.

When I press and hold the power and volume down buttons, the emergency call 
button comes up, with Cancel in focus, and if I hold it too long, it begins the 
auto call to 911/emergency contacts.  But, to get to the power off icon, I have 
to flick left, not right on my 13 pro.

This may be a change as of iOS 15?  The medical ID and location are other icons 
on that screen.

I'm going to rewrite my insructions and stress the safer Settings, General, 
Shut down method.


Thanks again,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

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-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi Richard,

There is one mistake in your list of commands, you write:

*       Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.

On an iPhone without a home button you push and hold the power button which is 
also called side button for SIRI. In order to power off the phone you press and 
hold the side button and volume down button at the same time until the power 
off menu appears, this menu also includes the SOS/9 1 1 call button so make 
sure you are not on it but to swipe right all the way until you get to "Power 
Off" before you double tap.

I find telling 
SIRI to "Open General Settings" and to then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom 
of the screen is just as easy, this puts focus straight on the shutdown button, 
but you still get the same menu except that focus is at least for me reliably 
on the power off button if you do it this way.
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web site.
But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
*       Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter 
your passcode
*       Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
*       Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button 
and Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button 
too long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
  *     Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
*       Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the 
volume down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds or 
until the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
*       Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
*       Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 

New Gestures replacing function of the Home button Starting at the bottom of 
the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel three haptic vibrations 
referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" when pressing the Home 
button). Each of these three clicks will activate a function. Note: The first 
click alerts you that you are in the feature.
*       Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*       Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
finger up until the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*       Activate Reachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
down.

Notification and Control Center

Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
*       Access the Control Center: From the top of the screen, slide one finger 
down until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*       Access the Notification Center: From the top of the screen, slide one 
finger down until the  third click. Lift your finger from the screen.

Other settings
Raise to Wake, under Settings, Display and Brightness, defaults to on.
If you find that your phone is constantly trying to "wake" up or unlock, and 
perhaps the battery is not giving you the time you thought it should, try 
turning that feature off.  If you use VoiceOver, and it is constantly saying 
the time whenever you move the iPhone, you probably have raise to wake on and 
each time the phone moves, it is trying to wake up.  
People who carry their phone in a bag or a purse may find it is constantly 
waking up from the movement of the bag/purse.

There is also a feature called Tap to Wake, under Settings, Accessibility, 
Touch, that allows you to wake up the phone by tapping in the middle of the 
screen with one finger.



Richard
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures 
I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi all 

Apologies for this, as I'm sure many of you will probably think I'm seriously 
behind the times. Basically, I'm getting a new IPhone as part of a job I do 
with/for my local council. Problem is that this new IPhone doesn't have a 
physical home button. 

I've never encountered this before, as I've always gone out of my way to make 
sure that my phone has the physical button. However, this phone isn't my 
choice, and I'm actually very nervous about getting it. 

So was just wondering if anyone could e-mail me a really idiot-proof list of 
instructions so that I can stand half a chance of managing to operate this 
buttonless phone?? Any help really really would be very much appreciated. For 
example, when setting up the phone in the very first place how on earth do I 
get VO to come on?? (Normally I'd just tripple tap the home button, and it's 
sorted ... but with this I've no idea). How do I go about switching apps with 
no button? How do I go about turning VO on/off with no button if I need to? The 
list is endless. 

So sorry If I'm coming across as a total idiot, but this phone doesn't belong 
to me and I'm really really scared of making a total mess of it when I get it. 
So any help/lists of gestures/explanations of how to do anything, no matter how 
basic, really would be most gratefully received and very much appreciated. 

Thanks so much everyone. 

Eleanor 

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