That is good news, sounds like the way to go, download Alexa, which I'll do, 
when we get moved. 

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 4:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple Accessibility Gravity 
Check-in

Lisa, This is not true. The Amazon Alexa app can do Everything that an Alexa 
device can do. I have an old iPhone, which has no cellular service. The phone 
is connected to wifi only. I/we use the app ONLY to control smart lights & our 
Ring security camera. The Only thing that I do Not use the app for is adding 
items into my shopping cart & placing orders. I even make wifi calls using the 
app. A stand alone Amazon Alexa device is not necessary.

Donna 
> 
> Hi, Carolyn.
> 
> 
> If you just want to order and browse Amazon the app is fine.  If you want to 
> use smart lights and switches and such, you'll need Alexa.
> 
> 
> Hope this clears things up.
> 
> 
> Lisa
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> 
>> On 8/9/2022 8:40 AM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
>> Knowing these things, I see no advantage to getting Alexa. Please correct 
>> me, any of you, if this is incorrect.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:11 PM
>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>> 
>> I don't use any kind of smart lights, but I'm sure that will work with the 
>> iPhone.  Good luck.
>> 
>>> On 8/8/22, Carolyn Arnold <carolynarnold1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> That sounds great then, Joshua. I assume that the iPhone can work 
>>> with smart light switches?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com] 
>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 4:37 PM
>>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>>> 
>>> I have the amazon shopping app on my iPhone.  You don't need the 
>>> Alexa app to do that.
>>> 
>>> On 8/8/22, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm not sure what you're asking, but you can use the Amazon app on 
>>>> your iPhone to place orders with Amazon. I'd also assume you could 
>>>> use the Alexa app on your iPhone to also place an Amazon order.
>>>> 
>>>> --
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>>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com <vipho...@googlegroups.com> On 
>>>> Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 12:01 PM
>>>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>>>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>>>> 
>>>> Can you do Amazon ordering with the iPhone without Alexa?
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com] 
>>>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:30 AM
>>>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>>>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>>>> 
>>>> You can order with the app, but be very careful that it is adding 
>>>> the correct item to your cart.
>>>> Also, be careful when using your phone with the app listening or a 
>>>> device listening, because if it hears your phone say something 
>>>> like, I can add the roborock vacuum to your cart; you may find that 
>>>> item is now in your cart.
>>>> It took a bit of work to get it out of the cart.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom 
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com <vipho...@googlegroups.com> On 
>>>> Behalf Of Donna Casteen
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:27 AM
>>>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>>>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>>>> 
>>>> Carolyn, I haven't tried ordering from the app or adding items to 
>>>> my cart. I do use the Alexa app to play games, play my music 
>>>> playlist, search answers to questions, get the current/daily weather 
>>>> forecast etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> That is great. I understand I can order with amazon?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Donna Casteen
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 8:21 PM
>>>>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>>>>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>>>>> 
>>>>> Carolyn, You can download the Amazon Alexa app from the app store 
>>>>> & use it like someone who has an Amazon Alexa device.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark, how do you download Alexa? I guess you have to buy it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 3:36 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; vipho...@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>>>>>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just wanted to check in with everyone and wish you all a happy 
>>>>>> Apple accessibility summer.  I cannot believe that August 2022 is 
>>>>>> already underway.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You know, it's kind of funny, I use my Apple devices more and 
>>>>>> more and yet I have less and less to say about them as they 
>>>>>> continue to get better and better.  (smile)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A few things that I have been intending to post but have not:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>> In addition to my wired EarPods, I now use both AirPods, third 
>>>>>> gen, and Airpods Pro, on a regular basis.  While I would have to 
>>>>>> say that my Airpods Pro offer better sound quality, I like the 
>>>>>> Airpods third gen, because they offer an easier / lighter 
>>>>>> listening experience.  I know that sounds crazy but, for me, it is true.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>> My poor old 8 Plus is truly on its last legs.  The lightening 
>>>>>> port can no longer hold a cable, unassisted.  This is to say, in 
>>>>>> order for me to keep a cable inserted, the phone must be on a 
>>>>>> horizontal plain or the cable will fall out.  I do use a wireless 
>>>>>> charger with it but .  I am going to try to make it last until 
>>>>>> the next iPhone release which, hopefully, will offer some form of touch 
>>>>>> ID.
>>>>>> However, If touch ID is not included in the next release I will 
>>>>>> either purchase the biggest best new phone or I will get an S E.
>>>>>> One way or another, my beloved 8 Plus is on its way out
>>>>>> (smile.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>> My iPad 10.5 2017 is going strong; it runs like a champ. However, 
>>>>>> I am definitely going to get a new MacBook Pro after I purchase 
>>>>>> my next iPhone.
>>>>>> I have a MacBook Air, M1, in the house but I really don't like 
>>>>>> the fact that it automatically powers on at the touch of any key. 
>>>>>> This is quite annoying.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 4.
>>>>>> As for software?  I find that I am using fewer and fewer apps.  I 
>>>>>> am not sure why.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All of the apps that allow me to easily manage my finances 
>>>>>> continue to be my favorite apps, of course.  However the Amazon 
>>>>>> apps continue to be at the top of my must have list.  I noticed 
>>>>>> some kind of a glitch between VoiceOver and Alexa on an iPhone 11, the 
>>>>>> other day.
>>>>>> Interesting as this glitch does not occur on my beloved 8 Plus.  
>>>>>> My solution?  Delete and then reinstall the Alexa app.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pill Reminder, My Chart, CA Lottery, and Yelp also head-up my 
>>>>>> favorite apps list, these days.  Of course, I am omitting all of 
>>>>>> the native Apple apps as their significance to my accessible life 
>>>>>> is unparalleled
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> While I continue to be a big fan of Twitter, for some reason, the 
>>>>>> app, and the service itself, for that matter, feel less 
>>>>>> streamline and unencumbered, these days.  Just my opinion, of course.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Uber, Lift, and Insta Cart are amazing, as always.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And of course, all of the book reading apps remain dear to my heart.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> While I would love to list some games that I enjoy on either iOS 
>>>>>> or iPad OS, alas, I cannot.  I do not know of any onboard (not 
>>>>>> requiring an internet
>>>>>> connection) VoiceOver accessible card games and / or board games; 
>>>>>> a sad reality, to be sure.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All replies to this post are welcome and, in fact, greatly appreciated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope this finds you all happy and well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> 
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