You still have a mute button, two volume buttons, a lock button and speaker grills. From what I've read, the key to making smart phones water resistant isn't by keeping water out but rather by keeping water from damaging internal components.
-- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:18 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3 A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim card is definitely on the way out in favor of E sim. I would guess that the sim slot is the first place that water might enterr. I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just prefer the Touch ID over face recognition. I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but I would not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA at some point in the future. Take care, James B -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3 Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 20 feet. As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a single tank so that isn't so far fetched. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3 I have not used a 13 mini. I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id. That would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 2020. How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model? And, is the 13 mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes? That is amazing. Sieghard , Thanks for your information. James B -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3 Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your iPhone with a good headset or speaker. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3 Which phone has the best sound? James B -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3 The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for "iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water proof. In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch taller and about an eighth of an inch wider. The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch. Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand. Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs: iPhone 13 mini 5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces 131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes) iPhone SE 5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces 138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres up to 30 minutes) -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3 The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 Mini like I did. I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket. Kelly On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY <chrisalis...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was > having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an > iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. 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