If the satellite functionality doesn't work above 62 degrees North they probably use Globalstar satellites because Iridium definitely work much further north than that and probably do so all the way to the pole. And 62 degrees is not really all that far north in Canada since the border between the provinces to the Territories west of Hudson Bay runs along the 60th parallel. Whitehorse, the capital of the Yukon Territory is between 60 and 61 degrees, Yellowknife, the capital of the Northwest Territory is at well over 62 degrees. In Alaska Anchorage is just below the 62nd parallel, but Fairbanks is well over 64 degrees. I guess the number of people who live above 62 degrees is quite small when compared to the population of the country, but then again it is where this service would be most needed and where a lot of work happens like mining, oil/gas and so on. I think this will be a great feature for the places further south in Canada where the largest number of people venture out into the outdoors because in Vancouver for example one can be just a few miles from the city in some valley in the mountains and you won't have cell coverage. There are dozens and maybe hundreds of search and rescue call outs each year when some city slicker in running shoes and shorts thinks they need to go for a hike in the north shore mountains, in Vancouver it's maybe nice and warm yet even now in September the days are getting short and you can run into very nasty weather in the mountains. I don't see this new feature taking away much business from companies like Garmin or Zoleo yet because these devices are much more reliable and while it costs money and it isn't cheap, if you are really spending a lot of time out of cell coverage and you have to communicate for work or whatever then these are still your best option. A plan with unlimited messages is about $70 Canadian a month, but you can also suspend it if you mostly use the device only during the summer, then you pay $5/month which keeps everything active until you activate it again for full usage.
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 8:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is giving itself two years to figure all of this out. Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. Kelly On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and > the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during > the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for > cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, > they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body > temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body > temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. > T > He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba > diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the > Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive > computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. > > The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they > didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple > released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one > from the year before. > The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera > system and always-on display possible. > I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS > via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they > said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would > indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of > course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and > Canada at that point. > For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always > the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where > it took a while for Canada to get it). > Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are > driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never > happen) you may get help quicker. > As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. > Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. > Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 > models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. > > Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 > or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you > spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added > peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also > share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite > figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, but > I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's Inreach > or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires you to > subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and receive text > replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big production of > pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or Zoleo in > fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine and > none of these devices have an external antenna which during the > presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite > SOS is definitely a good start and once again something new and > innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it that > within the next year or so Android phones will be released which also > have this. What surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p > their own centre for this, but that is probably the only way they can offer > this for free and they also didn't say which satellite network they use for > this, i.e. Iridium or Globalstar. > > Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? 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