Hello Mich,

You still don't get the iPhone 13 Pro Max for $0, they may want you to think 
you do, but the question is how much your plan is and what you get for that. If 
you pay anywhere around $80 a month for which you should get unlimited Canada 
wide calling and texting + quite a good amount of data then you are still 
paying at least $20 or $25 for your phone and if they say that you have to give 
the phone back after 2 years or pay something to keep it then  you definitely 
don't get it for free.
You can get a plan with unlimited calling and texting + a bunch of data from 
Koodo or similar for probably no more than $50 or $55 a months if you bring 
your own phone so anything above $50 or $55 is for your phone.
As for the iPhone 8, if you have a 64 Gb model than they might give you $100 if 
you are lucky, remember they only offered me $200 for my iPhone 11 which 
already has Face Id and is newer.
You can, however, still get probably $250 or $200 for sure for your iPhone 8 if 
you sell it privately and as long as it is in good condition.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

I am hopeing to upgrade from the I phone 8 to the I phone 13 max so that I can 
take addvantige of the lidar feture how ever I am also with tellis and I am 
wondering how mutch they would give me for my I phone 8? Since I am in the 
bring it back program and I would only have to pay for the taxes and get the I 
phone 13 max for 0 dollars not counting the taxes of korce. I to was not that 
impressed with the I phone 14 how ever I did like the watch though the watch ie 
I meen not the more expencive ones. How ever even that I would have to pay 
around 300 cad and I am notshure if I should go with the gps version or the one 
with cell service. As far as the answer to the question in this post I don't 
think that the I phone 14 has the lidar no. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard 
Ontario Canada.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 9, 2022 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

>From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have LiDAR.
You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody should upgrade from 
an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14.
I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones especially the regular 
models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 models from last year. 
They say they improved the camera a bit and the front camera now has auto focus 
so I guess if you are a selfie obsessed person that may be one good reason. The 
emergency SOS via satellite is definitely a feature and a good reason for 
people who go off the grid a lot and then that is about it.
I have a regular iPhone 11 which works great and for things like doing OCR, 
recognizing currency or using other Seeing AI features I doubt you would be 
able to notice an improvement between it and the iPhone 14 or even iPhone 14 
Pro. For sighted people who love taking tons of photos and are really into good 
photography the 14 Pro definitely would be a great option, if you really want 
to take advantage of door detection and maybe other features in various apps 
which require the LiDAR sensor then you have also a very good reason for the 14 
Pro or Pro Max, but only if you don't already have a 12 Pro/Pro Max or 13 
Pro/Pro Max which already have the LiDAR sensor as well.

I had my call from Telus, my provider in Canada today and I could have upgraded 
to an iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb for $30/month over 24 months and then I would have 
to give the phone back to them or buy out that option for $560. This means that 
over 2 years I would have paid $720 and if I then wanted to keep the phone I'd 
have to buy it out for $560 so in total I would pay $1,280. I can go to the 
Apple Store and buy a new iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb in Canada for $1,399 so I guess 
doing the deal with Telus may save me $100 or $120, but not a huge difference. 
AS for trade-in, Telus said they would give me $200 for my iPhone 11 64 Gb 
which is laughable because I know I could easily get $500 for it if I put it up 
for sale now privately.
So I will just wait and see what happens for a while, if the iPhone 14 and 14 
Pro phones aren't accepted as much as Apple may hope they are you may soon find 
stores, carriers and maybe even Apple offering extra deals and Black Friday is 
only just over 2 months off. I am of course somewhat tempted to get an iPhone 
14 Pro because I like the idea of the MagSafe charging where a slight bump or 
pull on the Earpods wouldn't dislodge the phone from its charging position on 
the wireless charging pad and you can get external batteries like that new 
Anker 622 MagGo which has 5,000 Mah capacity and it snaps onto the back of the 
phone without covering the camera opening, but I'll just wait a bit longer. 
Once the new phones are regularly available they may even be sold by my credit 
card rewards program and I have plenty of points and if not then I know for 
sure they have $500 Apple Store or Best Buy gift cards which I could order and 
then use to buy one. I know for sure that if I had a MagSafe capable phone like 
a 12 or 13 series phone I'd have 0 incentive to get a 14.


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

As far as I know, LIDAR is still only on the pro and pro max models.

One could call Apple to double check, but I was surprised they didn't mention 
anything about it especially with the door detection feature that is apparently 
coming in iOS 16, but of course, Wednesday's presentation was focused on 
hardware, not software.

 


Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
🦅

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

the subject heading says it all. I did not hear any mention of Lidar in apple’s 
presentation on wednesday. I have Xr, and the only insentive for me to upgrade 
would be Lidar. Does anyone know?
Cheers


Sent from my iPad

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