Hello Les,
I believe all iPhone 14 models have crash detection, but then again, we are well into the second half of 2022 and I could be wrong for the first time this year 🤣 Having said this and even if that is correct, I can totally see why you would want a pro phone this time around. I can't remember what you have now, but if you have an iPhone 12 or later whether Pro or not, the 14 Pro really is the only thing worth upgrading to. If somebody had an iPhone 8 or older then of course upgrading to a regular iPhone 14 would be a big improvement. Of course there is always the Apple Watch 8, they also have crash detection and especially if you don't have an Apple Watch you might really enjoy the experience and even if you do have one and it's not a 7th Gen, you could get crash detection for a lot less money than the cost of an iPhone 14 Pro. There is also the thing about what you have access to should you, hopefully never the case, have a car crash. It is more likely your Apple Watch will be on your wrist and accessible should you be in a position where you can talk to emergency services whereas your iPhone could be tossed anywhere unless you have it securely in a pocket or belt holster. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? Hi Sieghard, I'm glad you mentioned the crash detection feature. That was the first item that really grabbed my attention. My wife still drives, but I can tell you as we age, safety is of primary concern. I hope we never have to use it, but you just never know. In my case, that feature alone makes the Pro worth the upgrade, along with the other benefits already mentioned on this list.' Best, Les -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? As always people will upgrade whether they have to or not. And let's not forget there are many who still have phones like the iPhone 8, X, XS or XR and if they wish to upgrade this year simply because their phones are getting old then any iPhone 14 whether Pro or not is still a good choice. For sighted people who drive even just the crash detection feature can be a good motivation, then there is a slightly larger battery, slightly improved camera on the 14/14 Plus and big time improved camera on the Pro models and the emergency SOS via satellite which again for users who are off the grid a lot could offer some peace of mind. And anybody who doesn't think they need all that they can probably score a good deal on an iPhone 13 come Black Friday. I am actually most likely going to wait for that. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? The phones were terrible in my opinion they offered nothing. Hopefully they will offer touch ID somewhere on all phones if they do that and the USBC than I might get one but If they do little to nothing like they did this year I think a lot of people won't upgrade. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? >From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have LiDAR. You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody should upgrade from an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14. I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones especially the regular models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 models from last year. They say they improved the camera a bit and the front camera now has auto focus so I guess if you are a selfie obsessed person that may be one good reason. The emergency SOS via satellite is definitely a feature and a good reason for people who go off the grid a lot and then that is about it. I have a regular iPhone 11 which works great and for things like doing OCR, recognizing currency or using other Seeing AI features I doubt you would be able to notice an improvement between it and the iPhone 14 or even iPhone 14 Pro. For sighted people who love taking tons of photos and are really into good photography the 14 Pro definitely would be a great option, if you really want to take advantage of door detection and maybe other features in various apps which require the LiDAR sensor then you have also a very good reason for the 14 Pro or Pro Max, but only if you don't already have a 12 Pro/Pro Max or 13 Pro/Pro Max which already have the LiDAR sensor as well. I had my call from Telus, my provider in Canada today and I could have upgraded to an iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb for $30/month over 24 months and then I would have to give the phone back to them or buy out that option for $560. This means that over 2 years I would have paid $720 and if I then wanted to keep the phone I'd have to buy it out for $560 so in total I would pay $1,280. I can go to the Apple Store and buy a new iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb in Canada for $1,399 so I guess doing the deal with Telus may save me $100 or $120, but not a huge difference. AS for trade-in, Telus said they would give me $200 for my iPhone 11 64 Gb which is laughable because I know I could easily get $500 for it if I put it up for sale now privately. So I will just wait and see what happens for a while, if the iPhone 14 and 14 Pro phones aren't accepted as much as Apple may hope they are you may soon find stores, carriers and maybe even Apple offering extra deals and Black Friday is only just over 2 months off. I am of course somewhat tempted to get an iPhone 14 Pro because I like the idea of the MagSafe charging where a slight bump or pull on the Earpods wouldn't dislodge the phone from its charging position on the wireless charging pad and you can get external batteries like that new Anker 622 MagGo which has 5,000 Mah capacity and it snaps onto the back of the phone without covering the camera opening, but I'll just wait a bit longer. Once the new phones are regularly available they may even be sold by my credit card rewards program and I have plenty of points and if not then I know for sure they have $500 Apple Store or Best Buy gift cards which I could order and then use to buy one. I know for sure that if I had a MagSafe capable phone like a 12 or 13 series phone I'd have 0 incentive to get a 14. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 9:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? As far as I know, LIDAR is still only on the pro and pro max models. One could call Apple to double check, but I was surprised they didn't mention anything about it especially with the door detection feature that is apparently coming in iOS 16, but of course, Wednesday's presentation was focused on hardware, not software. Richard “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard My web site: https://www.turner42.com 🦅 -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 8:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? the subject heading says it all. I did not hear any mention of Lidar in apple’s presentation on wednesday. I have Xr, and the only insentive for me to upgrade would be Lidar. Does anyone know? Cheers Sent from my iPad -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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