Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

Tue, 11 Oct 2022 20:18:22 -0700 

Hi, All:
Good news is that I got containers added to the rotor. What worked for me was: 
settings, accessibility, voice over, then rotor, then select containers
The middling news is that I still can't hear moon phase in the bunch of "extras" like pressure in either the native weather app or weather as a widget. Siri does give it when verbally asked, so that is something. The "extras" give rising or falling for the pressure and that was a good portion of my original question . They include just about everything I normally want to know about local weather except for moon phase, so I'm good. 

Thank you all,

Margaret


On 10/10/2022 4:01 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote:
I found a podcast by Thomas Domville called "How to Check Weather Information with Siri in iOS" on Applevis that I'll listen to later. The item is listed at: 

https://www.applevis.com/new-to-ios?type=All&page=1
I found the "missing" actual native weather app apparently clearly labeled Weather on the second page of my Home Screen.  How I missed it for all this time is a mystery!!!  I was so focused on all the stuff needed to learn how to get my contacts in that I didn't pay attention to apps.  And there was this thing that clearly said Weather right on the status bar.
I think I found my way to Today View and I found another podcast by Thomas Domville on "How to add, remove, and customize widgets in iOS" on Applevis listed at 

https://www.applevis.com/new-to-ios?type=All&page=1

that I'll add to my to do list.

Adding containers to the rotor will be for another day.

Margaret


On 10/10/2022 12:16 PM, Carolyn wrote:
I haven't gotten moon phase, but after a few days after full moon, I ask Siri when is the next full moon. 

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Thank you.

I asked Siri to open weather and what it opened was very much if not
totally like what I've been double tapping on the status bar to get
weather.  I got more of the "extra" weather items like pressure using
that screen today than yesterday, but still no phase of the moon.

One thing that I heard that I don't remember hearing before was
something like scroll left to get to today view.  I have to look up
scroll left, but maybe if I can get there it will help enlighten me
about what today view might be.

I'll have another try at adding containers to the rotor after a break.

I couldn't find an icon that said weather when I first got the phone and
only had 1 home screen and thought it was a very important app not to be
there.  I'll have another try after some tea just in case I've missed it.


A change in what the status bar originally said and a change on another
part of the phone I asked someone to make may be part of the cause of my
weather app problem. When I got the phone home from the Verizon store,
it said   Cupertino and not my town in the status bar that was very
annoying.  Several days later, I asked my computer tech who was here for
something else if he could turn off raise to tap and he did and my town
and weather were in the status bar instead of Cupertino when I looked at
the phone when he left.  Maybe he changed it which was helpful, but I
have no idea what he did and if it had anything to do with the "missing"
weather icon.  I kept hearing weather in the status bar with widget
stack and my town and got more weather when I finally got brave and
double tapped on it.

I haven't knowingly created any folders and use them on my computer but
pretty much know little about them on the phone.

This is my backup phone that was intended for hurricanes and Nor'easters
when my land line is down and my land line is my primary phone.  The guy
at the Verizon store claimed that he was unable to transfer my contacts
from my Haven 3G flip phone to the SE 2020 and reconstructing them was
job #1.  I'm not learning new things nearly as well as I did even five
years ago and I suspect that my phone life would have been much easier
if I had been able to get it at an Apple store, but there was none close
to me.  I greatly appreciate everyone's help and patience.

Margaret




On 10/10/2022 8:42 AM, Barbara Stahl wrote:
Yes weather is an app if you're not seeing it on your main home screen it must be on another page or maybe inside of a folder you can either scroll through all of the icons on your pages and do you find it or you can tell Siri to open Weather and it'll open the app for you
On Oct 9, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Margaret Thomas <avidrea...@fastmail.com> wrote: 

Hi, All:
Thank you all for your help, but I am missing something.  Finding the "extra" weather like pressure without using containers seems to be a bit hit or miss.  I got a good number of them a couple days ago, but am only finding 1 or 2  today using Barbara's instructions:  "You just slide your finger down the screen til you hear the weather announced by days rather than hours. Scroll through this and then you will reach all the extra information like uv index, wind speed pressure visibility and so on."
I thought I would have better luck if I could add containers to the rotor but am not having any luck with either Barbara's instructions "You add containers to the roder by going to settings, accessibility, then roder, then select containers." or Marda's below: "In order to put items in the rotor you have to go to 
settings, then voiceover, then rotor."
I've never found an icon on the home screen for weather like there is for settings, health, etc. and begin by double tapping onWeather Widget Stack? my City and temperature to the right of some Verizon information on the status bar.   I don't know what a widget is and thought weather was an app
Lately, instead of saying Weather widget etc. the status bar sometimes says Notes widget and other times photos widget other times.  I was trying to work with notes the other day and may have accidentally messed something up.  I don't think I have even accidentally taken a photograph.  I want weather front and center and I don't want notes or photos the focus of attention.
In trying to find out what a widget is, I found some posts that referred to today view.  I know there can be multiple home screens and, right now, I seem to have 3, but today view is completely new for me.  Please, can someone enlighten me? 


I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an SE 2020.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret


On 10/5/2022 7:07 PM, Marda wrote:
Hi Margaret.  In order to put items in the rotor you have to go to settings, then voiceover, then rotor.  if you're swiping through settings you have to go through eight or nine of them before you get to rotor.  Then you have to select the things you want in the rotor.  I have containers in my rotor too but when I went to the rotor settings I didn't find that setting.  So I don't know if they still have it or not.  I don't know anything about containers so can't help with that. If you do find that setting and put it in the rotor and don't like where it is you can reorder items in the rotor to put the most important things first.  There are a whole bunch of things you can put in the rotor, maybe thirty or forty of them but it's probably best not to clutter the rotor up with too many things like you wouldn't want to have too many things on your desktop in your pc if you have one.  hth 
Marda

On 10/5/2022 4:01 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote:
Hi, All:
I can get Siri to give me the barometric pressure by verbally asking, but doesn't say if the pressure is rising or falling. I've been looking for something with a little more pressure information and someone suggested Dark Sky, but I understand it will be going away in 2023.  I found an old post from Richard which mentions pressure and some other items like moon phase that I'm interested in being on the native weather app.
Apparently having containers on the rotor allows more information to be heard on the screen than I'm getting.  Containers were new to me and I sort of understand them now,but I'm not finding them on the rotor for the screen that lists some of today's weather 10 day forecast etc. I've got Characters; Words; Headings and Speaking Rate on the rotor
Could someone please tell me how to add containers to the rotor so I can get this additional weather information. 

I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an iPhone SE 2020.

I'd be very grateful for any help.

Margaret

On 10/8/2021 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Kay,
When I use containers in the native weather app, it jumps from the current conditions, to Today's forecast as in Partly cloudy conditions from 4 pm-6pm with sunny conditions expected at 6pm. 
The next flick down gets me "now, partly cloudy 58 degrees."
The next flick down gets to the ten day forecast.  Next is air quality, Temperature, UV index, sunset, Wind, rainfall, feels like, humidity, visibility Pressure, Then it seems to circle back to the 10 day forecast.
   From the point where it says Now, partly cloudy 58 degrees, if I right flick, then I get the hours through tomorrow and I then bump into the 10 day forecast.
If I right flick from the 10 day forecast, I get each day's forecast, Today, Saturday, Sunday, etc. 
    I think that is everything that is on the screen.


Richard
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By Apple weather, do you mean the native weather app?  In the native weather app, when you go to containers, it takes you to hourly information and then 
to updates.  Unfortunately, it skips the daily forecast.  This is
interesting though and I will keep trying containers to see what it might do 
to make navigation easier.

Kay Malmquist
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Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: Weather.
That should help. I just about make D on rotor, but I'll see what I can do, 
thanks.

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Of Ed Worrell
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 4:19 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weather.
Containers are groups of information that you can jump between with the rotor feature. These are kind of like regions with in an application. You also see containers or landmarks on websites: such as navigation menus, main 
page content, or footer content.
In the Apple Weather app you have: current weather, hourly weather and 10 day forecast. You can add the container option to your rotor. When you switch the containers option you can flick down to move down the application via containers and once you get to the container you want to explore, now you can flick right to read the content in the container. You can also flick 
up to view containers above your current reading position.

I hope this helps,
Ed
On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: 

What are Containers? How are they used?

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Subject: Re: Weather.
In the default weather app on the iPhone you do not have to navigate it line by line. If you have the containers option in your rotor you can jump between the sections such as current conditions, hourly, daily forecast and even jump down to the bottom of the app to read amount of rain, temp 
details, sun and moon phases, etc.

I hope this helps,

Ed
On Sep 24, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
wrote:

That's it.
It resets them to their default.



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On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: 

?My last one was reset VoiceOver commands; did not find one about
defaults.

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Under VoiceOver settings, commands, if you flick right beyond all of 
them, you will find a restore to defaults.
HTH,



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     On Sep 24, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> 
wrote:



     ?What did you do to restore your commands to default?

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     Once I restored my commands to the defaults, it works; though it isn't 
something that overly impresses me yet.
     I had used the two finger side swipes for copy and paste.
     Back to the drawing board with those.



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        On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> 
wrote:
        ? Hi Richard, in the wEather app, with Grouped navigation on, you can flick between major sections of the app. When you find one you want to explore, flick right with two fingers. Now your flicks move between items in that group. when you're done, touch another part of the screen 
or flick left with two fingers.

        I hope that helps.

        best,
        Anna



            On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Richard Turner
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wrote:

            Anna,
            Could you give a more detailed explanation of the group navigation in the weather app? I cannot get any benefit from the group navigation style... But, thanks for mentioning it because I had not 
checked the rotor settings for a long time.




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                On Sep 23, 2021, at 7:28 PM, Anna Dresner
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                ?Hi,
                You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to move through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to a group, and flick right with two fingers to see the 
information in that group.

                Best,
                Anna




                    On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn
<4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote: 





                    Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker.





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                    Yes you have to go line by lne





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                        On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn
<4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
                        ?I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise 
and sunset and barometric pressure?





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                        It's at the very bottom of the screen and you have 
to scroll hour by hour











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                        Subject: Weather.
                        I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don't know how much we had. I asked Siri how much in the past 24 hours, and she said she could not tell me things from the past,yet she could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when he died - you think that is just happening 
right now? LOL!
                        My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, 
and barometric pressure now.





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