I would also love to know why you don’t want to update to 16.2. I had it and 
didn’t experience many problems with. 13 pro max and a 14 pro max.

Thanks,

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   

> On Dec 31, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 31, 2022, at 1:14 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Joshua,
>> 
>> I am sorry to learn that you are having problems with iOS 16.2 and iPhone 13.
>> 
>> Can you please list a few of these problems as I know of at least 2 local 
>> VoiceOver users who are preparing to buy 13 models and I am certain they 
>> would appreciate any items you could share.
>> 
>> List member Sieghard, as many will recall, just purchased an iPhone 13 Pro 
>> and I do not believe he has listed any OS problems with his phone, yet.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 10:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
>> 
>> AIm not having any problems with my Iphone 13 pro max and version 16.2.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Dec 30, 2022, at 6:05 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>> If I were you and had the sounds, I wouldn't go to 16.2; wait for 16.3. I 
>>>> have a 14 Pro, so will have the tones, but I have heard too much about 
>>>> 16.2, and do not intend to update until 16.3 is available. 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Stewart McKay
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 1:51 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
>>>> 
>>>> funny but i havbe an iphone eight and i have the sounds as well.  i 
>>>> haven't updated to 16.2 yet but if what everyone is saying i will lose 
>>>> them too.  but it is strange that when i updated to 16.1 they were enabled 
>>>> even though they weren't supposed to be for my model On 12/30/2022 1:15 
>>>> PM, Carolyn wrote:
>>>> I think that both Start Up and Shut Down are only on the 14 models.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 8:14 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
>>>> 
>>>> Are they available on the iPhone 13 pro?  Thanks.
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>>  Mark. I should have said that I’m not having problems with IOS 16.2. I like 
>> this update pretty well. I do hope some focus issues will be fixed in the 
>> next update. My phone is working well.
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