all this was several months ago; not terribly recent.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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On Jan 9, 2023, at 1:02 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> wrote:



Wow. I’ve  been really really out of the loop. The past six or eights weeks have been crazy with work. My mailing list inbox is still a mess.

Thanks for the quick summary.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

 

In short yes.

The drama was that Google decided that VIPhone list was sending out spam and blocked the list. Cara and Mark could not get them to undo that decision; so they created VIPhone2 and in not too terribly long of a time; poof, VIPhone began working again. So all those who had signed on with the new list now had two lists owned by Cara and moderated by Mark.

Mark began posting all of his messages to both lists; so many of us were getting two copies ... I inquired which list had the most traffic and Mark said the original one did.

I unsubscribed from VIPhone2.

So now, as you can tell, VIPhone2 is basically dead.

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

 



On Jan 9, 2023, at 10:03 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Talk about being out of the loop and behind on emails. I wasn't even aware of a second/back up list. Was there some drama?

Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

Fazil,

Mark wrote as follows:

Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, I will only post to the original ViPhone mailing list.
So, if you have not yet done so, you may subscribe to the original V iPhone group by sending an email to:
viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com
Also, I am no longer approving requests to join the ViPhone 2 mailing list.
If, for some reason, the primary ViPhone mailing list stops working, then we will, once again, activate ViPhone 2.

So if you look at the email header and see "From: viphone@googlegroups.com" all should be fine, otherwise do as Mark says and send an email to the address provided above.
I never subscribed to the ViPhone 2 list, but I assume it will indicate in the "From" field that it is from the ViPhone 2  list.




-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

Do I have to do anything on my end for this change to be effective, or it would be automatic?
Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2023 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

That's fine, thanks for the 'heads up'.


On 1/9/2023 2:27 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

Essentially, as far as I am concerned, the answer is, "Yes."  Please remember that I am referring only to the V iPhone 2, group, not the original list.

 

Let's not make this more complicated than it has to be; okay?

 

Mark

 

-----Original Message-----

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Flor Lynch

Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 5:16 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

 

Does this mean that the viphone2 list will be discontinued or paused for all members?

 

 

On 1/9/2023 12:17 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Simon,

 

The original V iPhone mailing list has been back  up and running for quite a while and it just doesn't make sense to keep using 2 groups for the same discussions.

 

Mark

 

-----Original Message-----

From: vipho...@googlegroups.com <vipho...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 4:02 PM

To: vipho...@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

 

Hi Mark,

 

Can we have a reason as to your change back?

 

I thought the former list had been killed off by the hosting providers.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: vipho...@googlegroups.com <vipho...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. Taylor

Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 12:49 pm

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

 

Hello Everyone,

 

Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, I will only post to the original V iPhone mailing list.

 

So, if you have not yet done so, you may subscribe to the original V iPhone group by sending an email to:

 

viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com

 

Also, I am no longer approving requests to join the V iPhone 2 mailing list.

If, for some reason, the primary V iPhone mailing list stops working, then we will, once again, activate V iPhone 2.

 

Moderator Mark

 

 

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