Sieghard, I appreciate your high moral standing and certainly you may consider to switch from Apple devices if you don’t like that. Apple is still known for Mac vs PC guy campaign that must be extremely dodgy by your standards, as it went much further in being nasty to competitors, comparing to that I only quote facts.
Just like in the previous thread I haven’t said a single thing on my app until someone started to either talk dirty on me or to promote another app with false facts. On the other hand it is great if it works on your device. It doesn’t on mine. And just to say that I still think that this is helpful information for someone who wants to use the beta. And your opinion on me and my campaign wasn’t. Let’s try to stick to the topic if that is possible. On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 8:22:47 PM UTC+2 Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > If you refer to Voice Dream Reader which I assume you are after your > dogged campaign to try and convince people your app is vbetter then I can > report that after upgrading to iOS 17 public beta yesterday I just tried it > and the app opened without crashing. I didn't do a lot in it, but I did > have an audio book loaded and started playing it, skipped forward and > backward a bit and all was working normally. > > > > *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com <vip...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ivan > Icin > *Sent:* Saturday, July 15, 2023 5:51 AM > *To:* VIPhone <vip...@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* Re: IOS 17, is it worth it? > > > > There are several features that might be of interest of VoiceOver users. > > > > You can set sentence pause and pitch for each voice. > > > > There is the option to read aloud the web page from Safari. > > > > One popular accessibility app is crashing on start, but people don't like > when I mention it so you will have to hear which one it is from someone > else. But as far as I remember it was crashing on each beta thus far so > nothing unexpected, just it might be important if you want to use it as the > daily driver. I haven't seen any other app to crash thus far. > > > > Certainly you can't expect beta to be bug free and it may get worse on > your device, but this beta is fairly close to being daily driver unlike for > example iOS 16 early betas. This is very close to the iOS 16 launch quality > level (which was very bad for the official version). > > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 7:47:59 PM UTC+2 Peter Logan wrote: > > To expound upon this some, the drag and drop issue still exists with the 3 > rd. developer beta. Also there are some things with Siri cutting off and > not completing things. I’ve also had issues with alarms and such being > silent even though volume is up and the mute switch is o not on. Also, I > agree .. that as with most of the betas the battery life is poor. > > > > If it’s your main device, I would be careful about moving to it, cause one > you do .. you can’t go back .. > > > > > > > > > > *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com <vip...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of > *Sieghard > Weitzel > *Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2023 10:55 AM > *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com > > *Subject:* RE: IOS 17, is it worth it? > > > > One thing you have to remember is that if you put iOS 17 public beta or > any early public beta on your primary phone that you have to be willing to > expect problems. This could be small stuff, but it could also mean that > certain apps you use crash and are unusable until the developer updates > them or something in iOS 17 is changed. It May mean more battery drain and > this is certainly something I have read about in connection with iOS 17. > > Another issue some people seem to experience is that the Messages app is > very sluggish. > > Also, ifyou do go ahead you should be willing and able to send feedback to > Apple when you run into an issue so they can look into it and if you feel > it concerns a particular app you should also contact the developer of the > app to let them know. > > One thing I heard about for Voiceover users is that drag and drop > currently does not work; this seems to have been fine in the first > developer betas and may possibly have only been introduced in this first > public beta release although once again, it may not be an issue for all > users. > > > > *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com <vip...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of * > Dan > *Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2023 7:12 AM > *To:* 'cwc' via VIPhone <vip...@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* IOS 17, is it worth it? > > > > Hi all, > > > > I read an article by Kim Komando about the public beta being out now. She > obviously didn't talk about any accessibility aspects of 17. I am just > wondering if 17 is worth the upgrade or not for VO users. I haven't used > betas in IOS before but was kind of toying with the idea this go round. > > > > Have any of you tried it yet? Is there anything in 17 worth our serious > consideration? > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. 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