Well, I told it to install later. Because that was the only option you gave me. 
And I went and plugged in, maybe an hour or so later, and then all of a sudden 
it when it had been installed. My phone was locked on the charger.
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> On Nov 26, 2023, at 1:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> I am curious why you say it “made me upgrade”. My Mom, for example, didn’t 
> upgrade to iOS 17 until just recently, but she had the option to also update 
> her version of iOS 16 to whatever the latest is, I think iOS 16.7, below that 
> the other option appeared which allowed her to go straight to the current 
> release of iOS 17.1. If you don’t turn automatic updating on, you are not 
> forced to upgrade to a new version of iOS unless you want to. Of course if 
> you buy a new iPhone then it will most likely come with iOS 17.
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of joseph 
> hudson
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> We are lucky that you're still able to delay the upgrade. Because I had no 
> choice. It made me upgrade. My grandmother's phone also did the same. But my 
> mom's phone has not yet. It'll be amazing to see how long hers last.
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> On Nov 26, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Rena <onyxfran...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> I never had any problem until now.
> I’m delaying the upgrade because I heard several people have problems with 
> 17, but of course, sooner or later I will upgrade.
>  
> Rena
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> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis Long
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> upgrade to iOS 17.
> i have no issues with WhatsApp on iOS 17. 
>  
> Dennis Long 
> sent from my iPhone  SE 3
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> 
> 
> On Nov 26, 2023, at 11:37 AM, Rena <onyxfran...@gmail.com 
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> Hello,
>  
> Every time I tap on new call, it says cancel. If I tap on any name in the 
> contacts, it says 0 percent of something, etc. To make a call, I have to tap 
> on the name of someone who called me.
> I restarted the phone, nothing changed.
> This is iOS 16.
> Any idea?
>  
> Rena
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