I also have an SE. I wouldn't think this would make any difference, but maybe this plays into it somehow.
-- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 On my Apple Watch SE I have never been able to use taptic time using 1 finger double taps. I have always had to use the 3 and 4 taps. I have also turned VO off and tried the 2 finger tap and hold and I have never gotten that to work either. Poor sighted folks. :) Dan Beaver Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA On 12/16/2023 2:29 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. 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