I have a lot of bookshare books I have easily put into voice dream reader. I wouldn't want to use an app if the process weren't quick and easy like voice dream. I don't care if I do have to pay a subscription in the future. Voice dream reader is an app I use all the time.
On 1/31/24, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote: > Thank you Ivan. > I'm looking forward to trying your app out with a Bookshare book once it is > clear to me how to go about getting one into the app. > > > Richard, USA > > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get > it.” > > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ > > > > > >> On Jan 31, 2024, at 2:59 PM, Ivan Icin <labsiiser...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Richard, >> >> I apologise for that word "misquoting". Maybe my impression from the old >> time that you are biased wasn't correct or maybe something has changed, >> but that is irrelevant now. >> >> I am happy for myself to feel the trust in the words that you post. So >> from my side feel completely free to share your honest opinion and you can >> count on my full respect for it. >> >> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 11:45:13 PM UTC+1 Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> Ivan, >>> Might it just be that the reason you had so few folks downloading stuff >>> from bookshare is that it was so difficult? Not straightforward at all? >>> Not at all like what we can get in Voice Dream reader or I believe also >>> dolphin easy reader, which I don’t personally use but have looked at. >>> For myself, by far the greatest use I have on my phone is Bhaṭṭa. Yes, I >>> have imported E pubs and PDF files into Voice during reader, which is >>> where I read all that stuff. And it helps to have the share thing off of >>> the website where you’re getting the documents from. so if Bookshare >>> doesn’t have that, they should, and I certainly wouldn’t mind asking them >>> to implement it. However, it is disingenuous to suppose that your figures >>> wouldn’t be a heck of a lot different if you actually had a >>> straightforward means of importing things . Anything that adds >>> unnecessary complexity to the process of getting a document from where it >>> is to where you want to read it is a significant deterrent, especially >>> when other much more efficient alternatives are available. That’s just >>> how it is. >>> directly from books like Voice dream has. >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jan 31, 2024, at 1:36 PM, Ivan Icin <labsii...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Richard, >>>> >>>> >>>> I am not sure if you misquote me intentionally or unintentionally. >>>> >>>> Either way, the correct fact is that I have supported Bookshare for 7 >>>> years. All of the users of the app together in December 2024 downloaded >>>> 10 books from Bookshare. Yes that is less of work to download those ten >>>> book for those 10 users ( than for me to write the support for Bookshare >>>> (and I would quickly remind you on your statements on how much support >>>> is expensive for one app that you love and how they need to charge >>>> immense amount for that). >>>> >>>> I am not sure how you can blame me for Speech Central users (including >>>> if you make the subgroup of VoiceOver users only) highly prefer to use >>>> PDFs, ePubs, web and almost everything else except books from Bookshare. >>>> I did spend my effort on non-profit basis for 7 years to support those >>>> people even if their volume of usage wasn't something that justified the >>>> support. I would imagine that this deserves some words like "thank you" >>>> or something similar. What exactly did I do wrong? >>>> >>>> Further I think that at the moment if someone is to be blamed it is >>>> Bookshare as they do allow downloads from the website, but don't >>>> implement the share function in their Reader app which would make >>>> importing into any app a piece of cake. No need for any app in this >>>> world to write the support for Bookshare as every app would support >>>> Bookshare. >>>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 10:21:59 PM UTC+1 Richard Turner >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I just downloaded it to try and immediately found out that to install >>>>> books from bookshare you have to download the DAISY file and import it >>>>> because the developer decided that customers could download the ten >>>>> books per month that way rather than him having to take the time to >>>>> program for their interface ... >>>>> BTW, did you try the update to VDR today to see if it fixed your >>>>> download issue? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 31, 2024, at 12:47 PM, Mary Otten <mott...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I just saw this on Apple viz.. Has anyone actually used this app? I >>>>>> had it on android and frankly couldn’t figure out how to use it or >>>>>> what it would be good for. But I’m not God’s gift to android that’s >>>>>> for sure. So I want to know if there are voice dream users out there >>>>>> using iPhones who have use this app. I’m not interested in hearing >>>>>> from the developer. I already saw his propaganda. I want real world >>>>>> users commenting. Thanks. >>>>>> The next generation of Speech Central has been launched >>>>>> AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products >>>>>> ... / Labsii >>>>>> >>>>>> Forum >>>>>> iOS and iPadOS >>>>>> >>>>>> As the app was in the beta testing for more than two months some >>>>>> people may already know what the new version is about. >>>>>> >>>>>> But during the beta period features were not publicly announced, that >>>>>> has happened for the first time just few days ago on the App Store. >>>>>> >>>>>> This isn't just another update. It isn't even another big update. And >>>>>> it is hard to provide the comparison, but if you take any of the >>>>>> competing apps and their cumulative updates in the last 5 years the >>>>>> shear size doesn't even come close to this. >>>>>> >>>>>> The full list improvements would require more than 1000 lines of text >>>>>> to tell. If we talk about new features, that would be still in >>>>>> hundreds of lines. Even major features are well above dozen of bullet >>>>>> lines. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I would like to focus on just one thing that reveals all the magic >>>>>> behind the effort - the new Emulate book narration mode. This feature >>>>>> brings quite a bit of the soul to robotic voices. Check this benchmark >>>>>> using the Apple's Ava Premium voice on the same text in Speech Central >>>>>> and Voice Dream: https://youtu.be/lCbr8HqXUCc >>>>>> >>>>>> Also you can check the same for Microsoft Ema voice in Speech Central >>>>>> and NaturalReader: https://youtu.be/HRiDafir-NY >>>>>> >>>>>> Regarding the other features I'll just use the same list as I have >>>>>> used in the App Store: >>>>>> - Design overhaul that maximises the space for the text on iPhone and >>>>>> adds sidebar functionality to the iPad >>>>>> - Multiwindow/multidocument support on the iPad >>>>>> - Instant mode for quick and simple reading >>>>>> - Music Intermezzo - inject Apple Music into your listening >>>>>> - Improved accessibility >>>>>> - Improved sync - more comprehensive, robust and performant >>>>>> - Numerous new settings options >>>>>> - Siri voice command to start playing now works even behind the lock >>>>>> screen >>>>>> >>>>>> As the app is free when used with VoiceOver, the best thing is to try >>>>>> it yourself: >>>>>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/speech-central-ai-voice-reader/id1127349155 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Original Article: >>>>>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/next-generation-speech-central-has-been-launched >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>>> list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>> itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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