Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader

[Corey Cook]

i'm starting to think y'all listen to a different podcast than I did because Jonathan did not tell you to contact Apple On Apr 3, 2024, at 3:52 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote:  I think we have a fighting.  Jonathan Mosen is a well known and respected voice.  When he mobilizes the community look out.  Apple will get a number of complaints just because of that I suspect they will be in trouble unless they release a old version with the current functionality.  Sure new voices they don’t have to include nor do they have to include kindle support or anything else they might add.  They do have to give us what we paid for.   From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 3:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader   They're absolutely violating the guidelines, the guidelines explicitly state to not do what they're doing. The only question is whether it will be noticed or acted upon. I could see it going either way. Grant Hardy     On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:31 PM Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote: I don’t have a problem with new features being paid.  I do have a problem with disabling existing functionality we paid for.    I have filed an complaint.  I encourage all to follow Jonathan’s instructions.  I also contacted Voicedream and pointed out where I believe they are in violation of the guidelines.    From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 3:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Please submit feedback to Apple about Voice Dream Reader   Hey Richard,   If I may, I do feel like the distinction between ‘rules’ and ‘guidelines’ is a bit pedantic. The App Store review guidelines at https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ do also use the term “rule” frequently throughout the text. For example, they say, “We hope these guidelines help you sail through the review process, and that approvals and rejections remain consistent across the board. This is a living document; new apps presenting new questions may result in new rules at any time.”   In this case the guideline I referenced, 3.1.2, states: “If you are changing your existing app to a subscription-based business model, you should not take away the primary functionality existing users have already paid for.”   This is pretty clear in my view, it’s essentially saying, don’t try to charge for something a user already bought, don’t take away purchases users already made. And that Apple page says they hope the guidelines will be enforced consistently across the board. The guideline also makes common sense to me. For example, I wouldn’t sell you a music album, then expect you to rent it out later.    This looks pretty clear-cut to me. You are absolutely right that it may not turn out to be an issue for this developer. The Apple reviewers may not notice, they might notice but let it slide, the guidelines may be changed, something else might happen. However at this point, it’s pretty clear that Apple doesn’t want developers to rent out features that users already bought. Grant Hardy     On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 9:32 AM Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote: People have been quoting an Apple guideline for Developers concerning Voice Dream Reader changing to a subscription model and changing people's access to new content etc.  I decided to look at definitions. Here is the Marium Webster dictionary definition of "Guidelines:"  a line by which one is guided: such as a: a cord or rope to aid a passer over a difficult point or to permit retracing a course b: an indication or outline of policy or conduct Now, a rule is quite different and since Apple uses guidelines and not rules, a developer is not required to strictly adhere to anyone's interpretation of a guideline in my opinion. Here is the Marium Webster definition of rules:  Definition (Entry 1 of 2) 1a: a prescribed guide for conduct or action b: the laws or regulations prescribed by the founder of a religious order for observance by its members c: an accepted procedure, custom, or habit d(1): a usually written order or direction made by a court regulating court practice or the action of parties (2): a legal precept or doctrine e: a regulation or bylaw governing procedure or controlling conduct 2a(1): a usually valid generalization (2): a generally prevailing quality, state, or mode //fair weather was the ruleyesterday — The New York Times b: a standard of judgment :CRITERION c: a regulating principle d: a determinate method for performing a mathematical operation and obtaining a certain result 3a: the exercise of authority or control : DOMINION b: a period during which a specified ruler or government exercises control 4a: a strip of material marked off in units used especially for measuring : RULER sense 3, TAPE MEASURE b: a metal strip with a type-high face that prints a linear design also : a linear design produced by or as if by such a strip as ​a ​rule : for the most part : GENERALLY       Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. 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