Hmm, and i was actually thinking of buying a Sonos system... Looks like i'm going to have to check out the Bang/Olufsen Beolite anyway. Anyone tried those? It's an airplay speaker similar to Libratone Live, but with supposedly better sound, i don't know about that however. /Krister
5 dec 2012 kl. 19:43 skrev Tony Bernedal <[email protected]>: > Hi. > That happened with the mac app. it's now completely useless. And I have > contacted them several times with no luck. So I can't recommend Sonos at the > moment. If they show more interest to get both ios, android and the computer > software accessible I can change my mind. > Airplay with airport express and ios and the mac is at the moment a better > choice. > > Regards Tony > > 5 dec 2012 kl. 12:10 skrev Søren Jensen <[email protected]>: > >> Hi. >> >> Nice work man. I hope you'll get success with that. I have looked at the >> Sonos products in a store, and they seems so nice. I'm a bit worried though, >> because that totally depends on the app for the i-devices. If they brakes >> that, we are left alone with those extremely expensive products which we are >> totally unable to use. So I think I will get a promise from the team that >> they are going to take accessibility serious in the future, before I de site >> to buy any of their products or not. I really wants to by some of their >> products, but I am afraid to just stand their, with an updated app which >> makes it all inaccessible! >> I'm sure you know what I mean. >> Best regards: >> Søren Jensen >> Mail & MSN: >> [email protected] >> Website: >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >> >> Den 05/12/2012 kl. 10.14 skrev Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]>: >> >>> Hello Listers, especially those who own Sonos products, >>> Hello Mike from Sonos, >>> >>> Sonos released an app update tonight. The single new feature that was >>> mentioned is the ability to now play music that is in your music library on >>> the phone and not just music that is stored on your PC or external hard >>> drive. While this is a nice feature and it is perfectly accessible, I >>> discovered that Sonos also broke a feature when Voiceover is running. A >>> couple of updates ago Sonos announced that if you were in the Sonos app it >>> was now possible to turn the playback volume on your Sonos player(s) up or >>> down using the volume keys on the phone. This worked just fine and >>> Voiceover volume was unchanged when Sonos volume was adjusted. In this most >>> recent update I discovered that when I wanted to turn up the playback >>> volume on my Sonos player nothing happened and instead Voiceover volume is >>> being turned up even though Voiceover was not talking at that time. I >>> turned Voiceover off with a triple click home and the volume up key worked >>> just fine to turn up the playback volume on my Sonos player. It is clearly >>> a new bug and while I will report this to Sonos I am afraid that their lack >>> of response in the past regarding accessibility will mean that from now on >>> a Voiceover user cannot use the volume buttons any more unless you first >>> turn off Voiceover. I CC this message to Mike Carlino, one of the Sonos >>> support people, and I urge all you Sonos users to send emails to Mike as >>> well. I also posted the below message on the Sonos Facebook page, Apple is >>> making a big deal of the accessibility features of the iPhone and more and >>> more people are aware of Apple’s fantastic work so I don’t see why they >>> shouldn’t be aware of other companies who apparently couldn’t care less >>> about visually impaired users beyond the fact that we also paid to buy >>> their product. >>> >>> Here is what I posted on the Sonos Facebook page: >>> >>> Top marks for the latest Sonos update if you are not visually impaired; for >>> blind iOS users Sonos continues to disappoint. Apple has been emphasizing >>> their commitment to accessibility in many areas. One of these includes >>> Voiceover, a built-in screenreader which has been included into every iOS >>> version for several years as well as into the OSX operating system. >>> Voiceover allows a blind user such as myself full access to a touch screen >>> device which due to its lack of tactile buttons used to be considered >>> impossible. In true Apple fashion accessibility has been implemented and as >>> Steve Jobbs was font of saying "it just works". Being able to use a popular >>> device such as an iPhone out of the box without having to spend hundreds or >>> even thousands of Dollars for specialty devices or software is truely >>> revolutionary. Hundreds of developers have jumped onto the accessibility >>> bandwagon and made improvements such a making sure buttons are properly >>> labelled and information can be read with Voiceover. One exception is >>> Sonos. I as well as a number of other blind iPhone users who also own Sonos >>> players (8 of them in my case) have beged Sonos for over 2 years to make a >>> few minor improvements and to make a commitment to accessibility which >>> would ensure continued support for accessibility. One example is the fact >>> that the "Previous", Play/Pause" and "Next" buttons are not labelled and >>> are read by Voiceover as something like "vertical bar slash". I have been >>> told by other developers that labelling a button is literally a matter of >>> minutes yet Sonos releases update after update and just ignores the issue. >>> In the most recent release which allows streaming of music that is on your >>> iPhone Sonos took it a step further and broke the ability to adjust the >>> volume of playback with the volume buttons, a feature they made a big deal >>> of a couple of updates ago. The feature used to work, now turning the >>> volume up increases the volume of the Voiceover screenreader and Sonos >>> volume remains unchanged. This is not a big deal although the ability to >>> change playback volume with the volume buttons is nice and it continues to >>> work just fine if I turn Voiceover off so it is obvious that this bug was >>> introduced in this update. I would love to buy a couple more Sonos players, >>> but I am right now very worried that one day Sonos will release an update >>> which will completely break the accessibility of the app and it will leave >>> me with just under $4,000 of Sonos equipment which I will not be able to >>> use any longer. I hope that by letting sighted users know about this some >>> of you will support visually impaired Sonos users by letting Sonos know >>> that this is important. Of course the number of blind Sonos users is very >>> small as a percentage of all users, however making sure that people who >>> have invested in a Sonos system are actually able to fully enjoy the >>> product is simply the right thing to do especially since the app is >>> probably 90% accessible and only a few minor improvements would be >>> required. Sonos, if you have no intention to make such improvements, why >>> not just say so outright instead of promising for years that improvements >>> are forthcoming? Why not write on your home page "Sonos is not fully >>> accessible for blind iOS users and Sonos as a company has chosen not to >>> invest in improvements”. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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