Re: Testing out new Siri AI, good bye typewriter-style assistant!

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

hey SIEGART and Richard, Yep! I reckon this is it, not in Europe yet… Thanks for all the effort, I look forward to it when it comes… Richard, I looked up in settings for recognition, and a different rotors, I have them. It seems to me that what is there is basically what I've been using for ages anyway using a four finger triple Tap, to bring up I think it's called screen recognition, and it does work very well, the only thing that's different with the latest iOS is you get a lot more detail, which is good, but I would like to be able to totally off and get a more quick reaction to what the camera seeing when you move it this can be more useful if you're moving around an environment… I haven't found a way to toggle between the extended description and more concise one.  Always very interesting though, from a mild island, Sandy and Mr Z Sent from The dark side of the moon On Sep 18, 2026, at 4:59 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:  Here is an Apple article about the new Siri AI. You can of course read the entire article, but you can also navigate by heading. Under the last heading “A Bold Architecture, Built Privacy-First”, are a bunch of bullet points towards the end which spell out certain limitations. The third to last bullet point states: • Siri AI will not be available initially in the EU on iOS, iPadOS, and watchOS. Features that rely on Siri AI will also not be available in the EU on iOS, iPadOS, and watchOS. Apple is working hard to find a path forward that preserves its users’ privacy and security.   Siri AI, a profoundly more capable and personal assistant, is here - Apple   From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2026 4:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Testing out new Siri AI, good bye typewriter-style assistant!   Oui Sandy,  Since you are in Ireland, I'm not sure. The new Siri won'with ask about using ChatGPT. Check settings, Siri, and see what it says there exactly. You may have it, but it is not turned on, but I suspect you may be in the wait list, or have to opt in for it. Since you have the same phone that I have, you will have access. Another question, In VoiceOver settings, under rotor, do you have a live recognition rotor and an image description rotor? You will love this when you get it.     Richard, USA "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” - Marcus Aurelius       My web site: https://www.turner42.com   (sent from my iPhone 16 pro)    On Sep 18, 2026, at 2:52 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:  Jen, Thanks for this. Siri is working as per normal, when I press the side button and hold it or say hey Siri, what I don't know is am I accessing the new advanced Siri. Because the behaviour seems to be identical to before, which is generally, the simple questions like what time is it, she answers and anything more complicated, she asked me if I want to use ChatGPT. for what I have read on this list, and indeed I think from your own messages, Siri is now able to do so much more, and there should from the sounds of it, be an app which I can access? however, I'm just not convinced a 16 pro is going to be running this new advanced Siri, I suppose that's what my question really is. I did take a look in the settings for Siri, and it did mention Apple Intelligence, especially with regard to cross referencing/actioning between apps, but I was lost to change any settings thinking it might do it automatically and I don't want to mess it up. perh perhaps, only time will tell… Thanks again anyway, Sandy NZ.   Sent from The dark side of the moon On Sep 18, 2026, at 10:25 a.m., Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello,   You should be able to just access Siri by pressing the side button down and asking it questions. You may want to check settings, Siri to make sure that it is on and ready to go. Sometimes, you have to join a wait list.   Jenn On Sep 18, 2026, at 3:20 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:   Jenny, I know I should do my own research, but, just for now, I have a 16 pro, can I access the new smart Siri on this phone and if so do I need to enable it in settings or should it show up automatically now that I have iOS 27? Thanks in advance for any help, sorry for the lack of investigation on my part… Sandy and Mr Z   Sent from The dark side of the moon On Sep 17, 2026, at 12:52 a.m., Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote: I’m loving the new SIRI AI as well. Now, in a video with math problems on it, I can have Siri tell me and even solve for me the math equations that appear in a video where the instructor won’t read the problems out loud. Siri did perfectly!   On Sep 16, 2026, at 5:11 PM, leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:   I’ve got to hand it to Apple. The new Siri app works much more like a chatbot, saving Siri interactions as conversation threads. You can reopen a thread, keep asking follow-up questions, and, in some cases, view the sources Siri used. I tested Siri in more situations than I can cover here, but two improvements stood out immediately: it is much faster and more responsive, and it handles context far better. That seems to reflect the models running locally on the iPhone, and despite my skepticism, Apple deserves credit. The real breakthrough in iOS 27 is Siri’s combination of on-screen awareness and personal context. Since 2024, I had mostly dismissed Apple Intelligence as marketing hype meant to sell more iPhones. This new Siri changed my mind. Many familiar tasks now work better and faster. I used Siri to send WhatsApp and Telegram messages; create, name, and revise notes; describe someone’s WhatsApp status; assess whether an image appeared to be AI-generated; and explain an app’s controls, layout, features, and uses. On Instagram, where a minor issue had hidden my follower count, Siri read it directly from my profile without any trouble. I also asked Siri to find specific photos. With a precise request, it can pull up the exact image or a set of likely matches, which makes location details and keywords especially useful. The results appear in a separate image picker. There is also a new “Ask” button on each photo in the library; it was not there before the new Siri was installed. On-screen awareness opens up a lot of possibilities within almost any app or webpage. In Safari, for example, I asked Siri to summarize a page into key points, give me language-learning examples based on it, and then create a flowchart illustrating the theory. Siri announced the generation progress, displayed the image right away, and saved it to the Playground app. Siri can also search email across multiple accounts. I asked it to find my oldest invoice, and it located and read one from 2020, when I was still in college and pandemic restrictions forced us to handle payments by email. It can also find other messages based on a topic or detail you remember, answer follow-up questions, and summarize a long email already on screen. Its understanding of the Files app impressed me too: after explaining the contents of a folder, it immediately recommended which files could help me better understand culture and society. One final moment was funny, ironic, and maybe a little dystopian. While I was testing Siri, it made a sound that suggested it was still thinking. I asked, “Siri, what are you doing?” It replied: “If string theory is correct, I could be dancing the Macarena for you in a parallel dimension. That could also happen in this dimension, by the way. You just have to ask.” Maybe it was a hallucination, or maybe Siri was trying a little too hard to be funny. Still, the exchange showed strong contextual awareness: it knows English is not my native language, my settings allow it to read Spanish text, and it has probably indexed at least some of my previous interactions. I tested all of this on an iPhone 16 Plus. 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