With that many tabs, try a Shift-Tab to see if backward scrolling through tab-stops is quicker. With software at work, I've discovered more than once that 1 shift-tab gets me where I want to be when many tabs are otherwise required. Please let us know if that makes a difference. Keith
________________________________ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sherrie Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 2:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Free ap for today: Ringtone Architect You can get the exact position to start and stop from iTunes. I made numerous ring tones using iTunes and after I used my watch to time where I wanted to start and stop I discovered that if I pressed the space bar to pause the song where I wanted to start the ring tone and tabbed about 15 or so times it finally gets to a spot where it tells you exactly how far into the song you are. After making note of this I then pressed the space bar again to start the music and paused it again where I wanted the ring tone to end. Then tab, tab, tab, 15 times to get the exact elapsed time. and I think the beginning of most songs do not contain the "good parts" that I want in my ring tones. I found many different directions for making ring tones with iTunes and they don't seem to involve much more fiddling than making them on the phone and then having to put them back on the computer before you can use them. Sherrie Gosling From: Robert Doc Wright<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Free ap for today: Ringtone Architect So, it would behoove me to find my starting point on my computer first so that I will know how far I wil have to move within a track. *** character is found in how you treat people who can't do anything for you. web page http://www.wrighthere.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:18 PM Subject: RE: Free ap for today: Ringtone Architect Hi Robert, By default the app takes the first 40 seconds of a song. You can play that 40 second portion of the song and, if you don't like it, approximately figure out how many seconds into the song you want to start. If, for example, you think you want to start 6 seconds into the song, just change the start position to 6 seconds, the duration will still be 40 seconds so when you play your selection it will play from 6 seconds to 46 seconds. Then you may decide that you have to nudge the start position a bit more ahead or back to make it sound good and you can do that because each tap on the > or < symbol only moves the position by one tenth of a second. Once you have it where you want it you can do the same to the end position. If the song fades out in the middle of a word and you want to make it a couple of seconds shorter you can just move the end position back, in my example instead of from 6 to 46 seconds you may want to go from 7 to 44 seconds which will result in a ringtone that is 37 seconds long instead of the full 40 seconds you can have. Once you play around with it it's really quite easy to do, it does require a lot of taps if you want to move the position by 8 or 10 seconds as you have to tap the < or > symbol ten times for each second, but if you split tap it's pretty quick and it's way more precise than using a slider. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.