Since VizWiz already does this, and since replicating the same service would be a bit redundant when it comes to crowd sourcing, why not instruct sighted volunteers to convey a bit more detailed information. In other words, the technology and structure is already there, it is now an issue of helping others help us. Like I mentioned before, simple details such as name of product rather than "soda" would be helpful. Title of book rather than "blue book" would be helpful. If the sighted person has no concept of what kind of information we need, they will respond in a manner by which "they" believe we need. They will convey the information "they" believe we need using their personal perspective and not necessarily the information we are looking to be described from a blind person's perspective.

LS

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmo...@mosen.org>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Information on how TapTapSee works


Hi Dmitriy. Thanks for confirming what I suspected was happening.
Might there be a way to force crowd sourcing in a future release? For example, I took a picture of a bottle of wine the other day. The object recognition engine came back with "wine bottle". Well Dah. Lol. I'd really like to have been able to force a crowd source on the picture to see if I could get more specific.

Thanks for a great app.

Jonathan
On 2/02/2013, at 1:52 PM, Dmitriy Konopatskiy <dmit...@taptapseeapp.com> wrote:

Alex,

After you click to take a picture does the app say "Picture 1 Take" or any other number for that matter?

-Dmitriy

On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Alex Stone <alexstone...@btinternet.com> wrote: Lauren, I had a feeling that was how it did it, but wasn't sure. The problem
I have though is that sometimes, you take a picture of something, and
nothing happens. It doesn't tell you the image is being processed or
anything
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lauren Simmons
Sent: 01 February 2013 21:15
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Information on how TapTapSee works

Hi all,

I think it is important we keep in mind how this free object recognizer app works. Its unfortunate that the details are not provided in app store. This TapTapSee app seems to work by employing a type of crowd sourcing. In other words, when you take a picture it is actually human beings responding. This is how it knows it is a dog or man on the picture. This also may explain why

only general descriptions of objects are provided such as "black shoe,"
"$20," "yellow blouse," "Lysol wipes," etc. I'm not certain yet that any
sort of database of known objects is employed as might be the case with bar
code scanners.

Please try the following for best results:
*use under good lighting conditions. (I believe most current update
automatically turns on flash if it is needed.)
*try to take one picture at a time and give enough time so the person on
other side can send back their description
*Try placing eye of camera at center of object or what will be the picture
to be recognized.
*If too proximal to object then back off and if too distal then bring camera

a little closer.

*Personal suggestion: try not to get too picture happy and snap pictures of
rocks, sand, or other frivolous objects as those individuals out there
recognizing objects might feel as though they are wasting their time
describing meaningless things.

Sorry if I insult anyone by changing the subject field its just that I
thought I would change it to accurate reflect the topic of this thread.

LS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs1...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Repeating tap tap see results


> No Carol, you just take a pic and the app does a very good job of
> identifying the object. You don't need to do anything else.
>
> I think this app is one of the best I have ever downloaded. Here are a > few

> of the things I've tested it on with great success, trying it out for a
> class of students thinking of buying iPhones.
>
> Identified a ten pound note, identified shampoo and conditioner bottles,
> told me colour of shirts, told me pattern on duvet, identified jar of
> coffee, identified can of coke, read title of CD, and more.
>
> Been chatting to others on Twitter and the overall verdict is that this
> app is great.
>
> I don't know how it works, just that it does, and brilliantly.
>
> Barbara
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carol Pearson
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 6:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Repeating tap tap see results
>
> Where does its database come from?  Do you have to create one from
> objects to start with?
>
> Carol P
>
> On 01/02/2013 15:24, Paul Ferrara wrote:
>> It does a good job of identifying objects, all sorts of objects. Give >> it
>> a try.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Carol Pearson
>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 9:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Repeating tap tap see results
>>
>> What's the big attraction about this app in terms of taking pictures, >> so
>> far as visually impaired people are concerned?
>>
>> I missed out on the beginning of talk about this app and would really
>> like to know why it's getting popular!
>>
>> Carol P
>>
>> On 01/02/2013 00:16, Dmitriy wrote:
>>> Eileen and Paul,
>>>
>>> The new update for TapTapSee now features a repeat function, as well >>> as
>>> an automatic flash.
>>>
>>> Here's a link to it:
>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/taptapsee/id567635020?mt=8
>>>
>>> Hope that helps,
>>> Dmitriy
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:32:35 PM UTC-8, paul.f...@insightbb.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hello,
>>>
>>>     No you cannot get it to repeat unfortunately.
>>>
>>>     Thanks.
>>>
>>>     Paul
>>>
>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>     From: Eileen Misrahi
>>>     Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:45 AM
>>>     To: vip...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>
>>>     Subject: Repeating tap tap see results
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Sent from my iPhoneWith good lighting, the app was very accurate.
>>>     Is seems
>>>     that the result is only spoken once. Can you get the results to
>>>     repeat? All
>>>     suggestions are welcomed.
>>>
>>>     Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>     Eileen
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