How do you make your fingers that shape? Still you have to twist your hands 
which is not ideal. I'm going to wait when we can use this App in to a perkins 
style brailler. I did use it flat on the desk but I was not accurate.

On 4 Feb 2013, at 11:06 PM, BrailleTouch <viph...@brailletouchapp.com> wrote:

> Alex and Kawal,
> 
> Have you tried the undocumented way of using BrailleTouch on a table or flat 
> surface? It is closer to a Perkins-style layout. Others on the list have 
> discovered this technique.
> 
> Put your iPhone with BrailleTouch on a flat surface in landscape with the 
> Home button on the right. Arrange your hands on the screen in the shape of 
> the letter V. Your index fingers are closest to you in the center of the 
> screen. Your ring fingers are in the corners of the screen farther away from 
> you.
> 
> This works very well for some people. Please let me know if it works for you.
> 
> Best,
> Caleb
> http://brailletouchapp.com/
> 
> On 2/4/2013 5:40 PM, Alex Stone wrote:
>> Kawal, I completely agree, and thanks for the headphones!
>> Alex
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: 04 February 2013 22:32
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Don't give up on Braille Touch.
>> 
>> Absolutely.  I'm doing as is required.  If we could type or touch Braille
>> Touch as if we had a perkins, problems solved.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 4 Feb 2013, at 18:43, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Kawal,
>>> Are you holding the phone with thumbs on top and little fingers on the
>> bottom and perhaps in your lap or against your chest for added support?
>> Maybe this would help take strain off your wrist. so far my wrists are
>> holding up, and strain is a problem for me too. Also leaving your fingers to
>> very lightly touch the screen also helps. A much more annoying problem for
>> me is to need to turn VO off and back on every time something iS written. I
>> do see what you are saying, though!
>>> Reggie and Brooks
>>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's nothing to do with the Grip. It's to do with the way your fingers
>> are to work Braille Touch. I don't know about anyone else, but my fingers
>> and rists start aching due to having to twist my hands. I can't use the App
>> for more than a minute. At present I am not using the App because of this
>> problem. Isugest you look up what Repetitive strain Injury is on google then
>> you will know what it means.
>>>> Kawal.
>>>> 
>>>> On 4 Feb 2013, at 12:53 PM, BrailleTouch <viph...@brailletouchapp.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> We recommend using a case for your iPhone with BrailleTouch to help with
>> the grip. Lauren and Kawal, please let me know if this help.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Caleb
>>>>> http://brailletouchapp.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/4/2013 7:30 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>>>> I've already pointed out Repetitive Strain Injury, and no developer has
>> got back about this yet. May be this should be addressed.
>>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3 Feb 2013, at 08:32 PM, Lauren Simmons <simmonslaure...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I am a bit worried about BrailleTouch in respect to possible
>> repetitive stress injuries. I've been typing for many years now just like
>> many of you, so holding the phone and typing in such a weird and stressful
>> position doesn't do anything to reduce RSI. We'll have to wait and see of
>> course, but I don't know if I want to risk the inevitable. Hopefully the
>> OtterBox case will help as it makes this iPod Touch a bit bigger, and I'm
>> assuming easier to hold.
>>>>>>> LS
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "CD" <cd5...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 10:40 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Don't give up on Braille Touch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I won't give up.  I will check each upgrade as it comes in and
>> hopefully
>>>>>>>> someday it will work for me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>>>>>>>> Of Donna Slater
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 9:58 AM
>>>>>>>> To: viphone
>>>>>>>> Subject: Don't give up on Braille Touch.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I can't tell you how much I like this app. For me it's amazing. I use
>> it all
>>>>>>>> the time as my main iPhone input method. No more bluetooth keyboards
>> for me!
>>>>>>>> For those of you having problems, please don't give up. Keep trying.
>> It's a
>>>>>>>> great app for anyone who prefers to write in Braille. My sighted
>> friends are
>>>>>>>> even impressed with the speed I can now write on my iPhone. I just so
>> wish
>>>>>>>> that Apple would allow the developers a way of incorporating it as a
>>>>>>>> keyboard choice.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Once again, thank you so much to Caleb and others involved in
>> creating this
>>>>>>>> app. You have done an amazing job and I for one am spreading the word
>> to
>>>>>>>> everyone about it. I look forward to grade 2 as and when this is
>> introduced.
>>>>>>>> Keep up the great work.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> With best regards
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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