Even if the speech volume would then, I wouldn't find it quite so annoying.


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On Feb 24, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm with you.  While on a call, I would just like an alert.  That way, if I 
> choose to read it immediately, I can tell the person on the other end to hold 
> on, move the phone from my face, than check the alert in the notification 
> center.  It just doesn't make sense to be on a call and have a e-mail or text 
> blurted out at high volume when on a call.  At least for me, I end up missing 
> a good chunk of the message because I'm holding a conversation, and, I miss a 
> chunk of what the person I'm speaking to was saying.  So, in short, its a 
> total lose lose.  
> 
> Yes, I've gotten into the habit of muting speech when on a call but, its a 
> workaround, and not a fix, and I don't think it should be viewed as a fix.  I 
> do understand that this is a bigger problem to some, than it is for others 
> but, if you have ever been on an important phone call with a client or a 
> prospective employer and had this happen, and had to ask them to repeat 
> themselves, its quite annoying to say the least. haha.
> 
> JMO.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Feb 24, 2013, at 11:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Christopher,
>> 
>> I think the fact that I don't want my phone call to be interrupted by
>> Voiceover reading incoming text messages, push notifications or emails from
>> people who are on my V.I.P list is not too much to ask. I don't mind a short
>> announcement of some event, but if Voiceover starts reading an email I
>> actually have found myself having to ask the other person to just hold on
>> for a moment until I was able to stop it because I could not hear them
>> behind Voiceover talking. In my opinion my smartphone is still a phone and
>> many people nowadays have a cell phone only so phone functions should have
>> priority. I also have no idea if the extra programming which would be
>> involved would introduce new bugs so to use that as an argument is in my
>> opinion one of those "what if" scenarios one can come up with for anything.
>> One thing that I thought of the other day and which I haven't tried is to
>> maybe press one of the volume keys if I am on a call and Voiceover starts
>> reading. After all, this does silence the ringer so maybe pushing the volume
>> up or down key would interrupt Voiceover as well which if it works would
>> probably be a very good and easy solution for the time being. Maybe somebody
>> has tried this and can confirm if it works or not otherwise I'll try it next
>> time I have the opportunity to do so and I'll post my finding.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Device specific bugs regarding focus and phone calls, was: vo
>> focus...
>> 
>> I don't understand James' reasoning. The whole reason I have a smart phone
>> and all of the apps on it is to make my life easier. Sure more coding is
>> involved and sure this may introduce some bugs, but hopefully those will get
>> ironed out and we'll end up with a greater number of features and an easier
>> to use phone. Laziness has nothing to do with it.
>> 
>> On 24/02/13 21:07, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Hello James,
>>> 
>>> The 3-finger double tap works fine as far as it goes. If I remember 
>>> correctly you live in the south somewhere and probably don't deal with 
>>> cold temperatures which require you to wear a heavy coat for 5 months 
>>> out of the year along with gloves. If you did and had to start digging 
>>> for your phone every time you were out and about with your phone 
>>> tugged away and then take off a glove to use the touch screen you 
>>> might agree with me and support the fact that this most likely could 
>>> be addressed. David from New Zealand mentioned that he likes his 
>>> notifications spoken so I think Apple should at least look at the 
>>> possibility to offer this as an option in Voiceover and I am going to send
>> them feedback to that extend.
>>> As I said, it is my understanding that not everybody is dealing with 
>>> this and if you are not then I am happy for you, but it's also not 
>>> very insightful to recommend a work-around to an annoying problem as 
>>> that does not do anything to improve the situation. That is no 
>>> different than to suggest that maybe I should let voice mail take the 
>>> call and then to call back from a landline or when I am inside and have
>> normal access to my phone.
>>> This would also solve the problem, but it's not a reasonable solution. 
>>> We all have to keep in mind that there are people from all over the 
>>> world on this list and people from all sorts of backgrounds and what 
>>> maybe completely fine for you may not be for somebody else.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of James Mannion
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Device specific bugs regarding focus and phone calls, 
>>> was: vo focus...
>>> 
>>> Well ya know, a simple 3 finger double tap once in a call will have 
>>> voiceover "shut up" as long as you want. Or of course one could be too 
>>> lazy to do that and push for more complicated coding that increases 
>>> the possibility of resulting bugs. It takes more time to complain 
>>> about voiceover reading when you don't want it to than it would to 
>>> just not be too lazy to use your available commands to make it not do so.
>>> 
>>> On 2/24/13, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> I just opened an email and double tapped on "Reply" and Voiceover put 
>>>> focus on "Reply" which is the first item in the list. It seems that 
>>>> this is an issue which happens in some cases and maybe on some devices.
>>>> I have a similar problem with Voiceover volume during a call if I am 
>>>> not using a headset. Ever since iOS 6 I am not able to turn Voiceover 
>>>> volume up independently from the call volume, at least I am not able 
>>>> to balance Voiceover volume and call volume where I can comfortably 
>>>> have the phone on speakerphone and dial numbers or hear voice prompts.
>>>> Apparently not everybody has this problem and my 4S also keeps on 
>>>> reading out call duration every 20 seconds while on a call no matter 
>>>> what I do. If I flick focus away from the call duration, the screen 
>>>> locks after a while and within about 30 seconds Voiceover resumes 
>>>> announcing the call duration. For me I would consider those 2 items 
>>>> the most inconvenient bugs in addition to the fact that Voiceover 
>>>> reads incoming push notification, messages etc. when on a call, Apple 
>>>> should really fix it so that Voiceover shuts up completely with 
>>>> respect to automatic announcements when a phone call is in progress.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sieghard
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Peter Durieux
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:41 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: vo focus of last entry in menu's instead of first with ios 
>>>> 6.1.2ee
>>>> 
>>>> hi folks,
>>>> does someone else experience this same issue?
>>>> for example, when tapping the reply button in mail, vo will focus the 
>>>> cancel buttton instead of the first choice answer.
>>>> the same behaviour are in different apps, so it seems an vo issue in 
>>>> ios
>>>> 6.1.2 ...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> With kind regards,
>>>> 
>>>> -Peter Durieux
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