Hi there. I am curious as to where the reply for the message came from seeing 
is how this thread is over a month old. Just thought I would point that out.

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On Apr 7, 2013, at 3:27 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> There is only one GPS antenna in the iPhone. It is either active and draining 
> the battery, or it is not active, and therefore not drawing power. No matter 
> how many GPS apps are running, the GPS antenna will draw the same amount of 
> power. That said, more GPS (or other apps for that matter) running means more 
> cycles of the processor and more power drain above that of the GPS antenna. 
> Furthermore, GPS apps running guided GPS navigation (turn-by-turn) in the 
> background drain more power than when they are the primary open app.
> 
> A friend set up widgets on his Android phone and found that the widgets 
> drained the phone's battery quite rapidly, and caused major slowdown/lag on 
> his android phone.
> 
> He acquired an iPhone 5 a few weeks ago and jailbroke the iPhone. He then 
> installed the same widgets he was running on his Android phone. Today, he 
> told me the results. He experienced the same extreme battery drain and 
> lag/slowdown on the iPhone 5 that he experienced on the Android phone. It 
> should be noted that this friend is sighted. He considers himself to be a 
> power-user of mobile technology. He also told me that Apple apparently knows 
> what it is doing in not allowing widgets on standard iPhones.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 03/03/2013, at 15:22, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
> 
>> David,
>> 
>> This sounds cool.
>> 
>> Can you give us a primer on how you use all these apps in an integrated way? 
>> Is it as simple as just opening them all and it somehow magically happens?
>> 
>> Does all these apps working simultaneously, and presumably needing their own 
>> gps data, pose a significant battery drain that perhaps one integrated app 
>> would diminish?
>> 
>> Thanks. Keith
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:24 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN
>> 
>> Which is why I have everything covered that the Seeing Eye app will be 
>> providing in a few apps. TomTom and Apple Maps gives me just about 
>> everything I need including names of streets I am passing, turn by turn 
>> directions, automatic routing and rerouting, with onboard maps (TomTom) or 
>> online maps (Apple Maps). Both apps even can give my current address (which 
>> is now automatically announced in Apple Maps (when set to Tracking On with 
>> Headings). I have stopped using Ariadne, for the most part, because Apple 
>> Maps finally does it all, including giving me an accessible onscreen map 
>> (Tracking On (without headings).
>> 
>> And, even better, Local Scope accesses automatically several internet POI 
>> listings and consolidates them for me. It is the only POI system that 
>> accesses all my local bus stop locations. Even better, VO accesses Local 
>> Scopes map view, if turned on, the same way and to the same degree, that it 
>> accesses Apple Maps graphical maps.
>> 
>> The best thing, my total, one-time charge   (given that TomTom and Navigon 
>> are both more expensive here in NZ) is $70 to $80. I do not remember what, 
>> if anything, I paid for Local Scope. Where To, the other POI app I like cost 
>> me $1.99, and provides many more POIs than I got from Look Around when I was 
>> visiting the US. Finally, all the apps I use work perfectly well in NZ.
>> 
>> It must be noted that Navigon and TomTom must be purchased separately for 
>> each country or region.
>> 
>> My point here is I am paying significantly less for equivalent service. I am 
>> not getting clock-face directions, but with practice, I have something 
>> better, an audio graphical map view interface which shows me the information 
>> via haptics (touch) and audio.
>> 
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 03/03/2013, at 11:47, Keith Watson <lnx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> Exactly. You bought a device, it had maps on it. You can now choose to 
>>> upgrade or not to upgrade those maps on the device when they become 
>>> available. If you do not choose to upgrade the device will continue to work 
>>> the way it was sold to you.
>>> 
>>> Now I buy a device, lets call it an iPhone. I then purchase an app called 
>>> Seeing Eye from a company called Sendero. I pay $100 for the app. time goes 
>>> by. Lets say for the sake of argument that its 3 years later. In the 
>>> interim I have lost my job, the stock market has crashed and the bank has 
>>> taken my house back. I have a job interview and want to use this app to 
>>> find my way to it. I turn it on and low and behold they want another $100 
>>> in order for me to use it. In other words I have rented the app for 3 years 
>>> and now its useless to me. To my small mind this is not good business. I 
>>> would go so far as to call it extortion. If I am going to pay that high a 
>>> price for something I damned well want to own it.
>>> 
>>> I do not know what Garmon is going to do with map updates. Whether they are 
>>> going to be free or not is besides the point. I bought Navigon. It will 
>>> work the way it is until I get rid of the device, IOS changes so 
>>> drasticallyy that it no longer is supported or something else better comes 
>>> along to replace it. The choice is mine, not theirs.
>>> 
>>> Again, these are my opinions and my thoughts. I by no means condemn those 
>>> of you who have the money to waste on this type of business plan. I guess I 
>>> am just a bit more frugal than most.
>>> 
>>> Keith
>>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:21 PM, john gallagher <j...@pianotuner.plus.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hi there keith interesting but say on my sendero on the apex because the 
>>>> maps are actually on the machine even though they will not get updated 
>>>> they will still work and yes cost is important for blind people as we have 
>>>> to pay much more for our devices and of course the software.  am i correct 
>>>> in saying that with navigon there updates are free.
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